Rasho= waste of oxygen, start Oberto unload rasho

[Kori Ellis]

Shiner Bock Girl seems to like him too. See above ^^

Yeah I saw it. That's not enough devotion to put her in the Rasho lover category ... yet.

[angel_luv]

Shiner Bock Girl seems to like him too. See above ^^

Shiner is good people. =)

[angel_luv]

Why do I have the feeling only the ladies on this board like Rasho (and slovenian members, of course, but that goes without saying)? Is it because he's a bachelor?

Actually that is the one thing I don't like about Rasho.

We need to be dating already!

[Ocotillo]

Jeez, Rasho is fine. Let's look at the centers of the west:

Dampier, Yao, L. Wright, J. Magloire, M. Camby, Olowakandi, T. Ratliff, Potapenko, Boozer, A. Foyle, C. Kaman, Mihm, B. Grant and B. Miller

He's right in the middle of that group.

How about the east?

M. Blount, M. Jackson, E. Curry, S. Dalembert, whoever the Raptors throw out there, T. Chandler, Z. Ilgauskas, B. Wallace, J. Foster, A. Bogut, Hawk's center?, Bobcat's center?, Shaq, K. Cato and B. Haywood.

Again, in the middle.

The trio of Rasho, Nazr and Oberto will be invaluable as there is not a big drop off if any of them get in foul trouble. That will come in handy against a Miami.

[Brutalis]

I believe the only guys who averaged 14 and 10 last year were Garnett, Duncan, Marion, Okafor, Murphy, Shaq, and Odom. So I don't know how people think that Rasho should get those numbers.

Because there are a few players who at least look like they are earning their salary.

[Kobayagi]

Bobcat's center?

Primoz Brezec

[Ocotillo]

Primoz Brezec

Thanks.

[Clandestino]

for the most part 9 out of 10 Spurs dont know jack and suck
go back to watching ESPN and letting other people tell you what's what you sheep

it doesn't take espn for me to see rasho being a pussy. and if anyone here thinks rasho is not a pussy, then they must be a bigger pussy!

[SequSpur]

@ this topic.

[ShoogarBear]

in about Rasho is really frying small fish, bored people filling up time.

I sort of disagree. It's not a #1 priority, but the Spurs depend on having at least two guys who can play center to prevent Tim loggin excessive time there.

From what I've heard, Oberto doesn't have the size to man the center spot a dependable 25 minutes a night (he can probably situationally cover for 10 or so), and for now at least he has defensive deficiencies.

Having both Nazr and Rasho is probably less important for the playoffs, but if we want Tim fresh for the postseason, we need those two bigs.

Liek I said, if Rasho wasn't making what he is, there would be no discussion about getting rid of him, despite the disappointment in his offensive production.

[milkyway21]

I never liked the Nesterovic signing, and I have never bought the idea that he is a great defender either. I think the only time Pop says asinine things about how good rasho is on the defensive end is when he is trying to raise his stock, but I have seldom been impressed with a single fasset of Rasho's game and am 90% sure that had he been starting in the post season his numbers would have tanked. He probably would have pulled a hedo, bricked open shots and miss a bunch of layups while simultaneously failing to so much as breathe on his defensive assgnment.

Oberto on the other hand is not a horible defensive player, has had an excellent camp and preseason by all accounts, and has the potential to be more than what ultimalty both Rasho and Nazr will be in the playoffs.... a handicap. I just dont think oberto will be 1) a waste of oxygen the way Rasho is or 2) as stonehanded and inconsistant as Nazr was.

..i understand.

what can you expect from someone who said an injured Tim Duncan is playing like Chris Webber before? hope the 2005 le pleases you.

guess you can't please everybody

hey I really want Rasho to stay on this team but I can support trading Rasho if you can find a better ,no at ude problem, and CHEAP replacement there is but your reasons of trading him is not good enough for me...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

^^nice le

[RobinsontoDuncan]

so what none of you ever addressed the warrants of my arg, I never said the fact that tim was injured wasnt the reason why he was playing poorly, all i said was that at the time he wasnt playing his game, and it looked like cwebbs. I dont back down from that, i think he started playing better in the seattle series and in the suns series i saw the old tim for flashes again.

That has nothing to do with the fact that out of the following, all of the bolded names are preferable to rasho

Dampier, Yao, L. Wright, J. Magloire, M. Camby, Olowakandi, T. Ratliff, Potapenko, Boozer, A. Foyle, C. Kaman, Mihm, B. Grant and B. Miller

M. Blount, M. Jackson, E. Curry, S. Dalembert, whoever the Raptors throw out there, T. Chandler, Z. Ilgauskas, B. Wallace, J. Foster, A. Bogut, Hawk's center?, primo breznek, Shaq, K. Cato and B. Haywood.

[boutons]

We have Fabricio, Roberto, Rasho, Nazro, Seano to spell Timmo. Rasho is hardly alone in carrying that burden. 6 biggo front-courto guys, that otta be enough, dammit!!

If Rasho's post-Nazr-arrival aggressiveness can get him back up to his 03/04 numbers, that will be excellent. Tim, Tony, and Manu will get their double digit averages, 55 PPG, as the first three offensive options, while Brent, Rasho, maybe Michael could come in at 7 - 9 PPG.

[milkyway21]

so what none of you ever addressed the warrants of my arg, I never said the fact that tim was injured wasnt the reason why he was playing poorly, all i said was that at the time he wasnt playing his game, and it looked like cwebbs. I dont back down from that, i think he started playing better in the seattle series and in the suns series i saw the old tim for flashes again.

That has nothing to do with the fact that out of the following, all of the bolded names are preferable to rasho

Dampier, L. Wright, J. Magloire, M. Camby, Olowakandi, T. Ratliff, Potapenko, Boozer, A. Foyle, C. Kaman, Mihm, B. Grant and B. Miller

M. Blount, M. Jackson, E. Curry, S. Dalembert, whoever the Raptors throw out there, T. Chandler, Z. Ilgauskas, B. Wallace, J. Foster, A. Bogut, Hawk's center?, primo breznek, K. Cato and B. Haywood.

..are you sure all of these people are
-CHEAPer than Rasho?
-capable of playing alongside Tim Duncan w/o asking for more minutes and the ball?
-better defender, good enough for ShaQ?
-not health risk or injury-prone?
-can play from the bench?
-younger? or
-untied to any team contract?

and hey Dampier? he was a good when he used to play as a Warrior but i was never amazed of him everytime he play gainst San Antonio, even had zero score once, if i remember correctly

his 200-4-05 stats vs. S.A.
27min; 5 ppg; 5 rbpg; 1.3blk/g
awesome

[Marcus Bryant]

Yeah, I mean, I'd prefer Boozer and BWallace over Rasho. I'd also prefer LeBron over Bruce.

Also, Curry? , Radoslav outrebounds that fool. Chrissy Mihm? Foyle?

[milkyway21]

BWallace

i doubt if Detroit is willing enough to part ways with Big Ben at this time .

[angel_luv]

Rasho is a keeper, pure and simple. =)

[milkyway21]

we always question about Rasho's performance playing with the team but we forgot then that he was on his peak season playing alongside KG then when we needed a replacement for DRob Pops followed him to Slovenia to sign him. His all-time NBA high in scoring was against this team and vs the twin-towers. He left an equally gifted KG for Tim. If deferring so much to Duncan and the Spurs' big 3 to do the offensive is a crime, then Rasho is a criminal. His stats suffered and now he's paying w/ the mockery and ridicule of some Spurs some who can't seem to stop comparing him to the Mighty Admiral.

but I do agree for Oberto to start, but not yet.

[ploto]

Even David only averaged double digit rebounds twice alongside Tim- and that was Tim's first two years here.

10.6 rebs per game-- 33.7 mins pg
10.0 rebs per game-- 31.7 mins pg

[GoSpurs21]

it doesn't take espn for me to see rasho being a pussy. and if anyone here thinks rasho is not a pussy, then they must be a bigger pussy!

again more sheep that let other people do their thinking for them. go back to support republican criminals like the hammer and let the grownups do their own thinking. Thank you for playing now go back to your video games and let the grown ups to their own.

dam this forum used to belong to the grownups but now it seems like it belongs to the same immature kidds that spursreport has gone. what's next, should I also expect to see pop ups like the bull ones at spursreport?

[ZStomp]

Rasho is a keeper, pure and simple. =)

Stop thinking with your "_____" and start using your brain!! hahah

seriously, we all know you find him attractive..but do you really think he's a good player?

[RashoFan]

Holy Cow!!!! You summed this up perfectly...And i have to agree on everything...I will add, Rasho is now under more stress to try and get back in his groove, i think he's going to suprise everyone.....Pop kept him around for a reason...Have some faith in the guy.....GOOOO RASHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn...
I like this girl.....Nice name and she is helping to defend Rasho!!!

[boutons]

Hey angel, I hear you been helpin Rasho with his "low post" moves.
How's than comin along?
Is Rasho the Big Stiff a lot of people claim he is?

[RashoFan]

Liek I said, if Rasho wasn't making what he is, there would be no discussion about getting rid of him, despite the disappointment in his offensive production.

This sounds like the #1 issue that most people harp on.....I agree with Shoogar Bear on this one.

The money he signed for should have had 14/10 numbers at least.

This is a good point....This falls on the heads of ALL who negotiated the contract...The PTB in the Spurs organization, Rasho's agent, Rasho (Love you honey, still that was alot of $$$$$).

For the record: Minnesota's offer was for $10M more than the Spurs' offer (partially because they could offer higher % raises and an
additional year). They were ready to offer him even more to stay there, but he told Kevin McHale it wasn't about getting more money.

Wow MIN would have paid him more $$$ BUT Rasho chose to play here....I guess he could smell the beginnings of a Dynasty here in SA!

Rasho did his job against the Pacers. He didn't make any real mistakes and was a positve on the +/-. That is what the Spurs need. That's not saying they can't do better, but take a good look around the league.

There is always room for improvement....Myself included!

Doesn't he live with his mum?

Maybe his mother lives WITH him...MY mother lives WITH ME....

..are you sure all of these people are
-CHEAPer than Rasho?
-capable of playing alongside Tim Duncan w/o asking for more minutes and the ball?
-better defender, good enough for ShaQ?
-not health risk or injury-prone?
-can play from the bench?
-younger? or
-untied to any team contract?

Good points.

Other than talking about trading Rasho...(that horse has been beaten for such a long time) Does any one have any thoughts on how the Spurs organization can actually Help improve Rasho's "game"? They have already invested Millions for him....what's a few $$$$ to hire someone to assist/coach/tutor (whatever) him and (what da ) Nazr too in Defense/Offense/Confidence....etc.

That is my take on a few things...I wish you all a good night.