Why are we displeased with DeRozen so much?

[Dverde]

I think he gets ted on too much. I think a lot of it is his terrible fourth quarter management. I’m hoping with the new wave of talent he relents on trying to win the games by himself in the fourth.

[DPG21920]

Everything was different. Key injuries and a much weaker bench this season, which would have ing sucked without DeRozan, who played through injuries for the second half of the season.

What?? The bench now is 10x stronger now.

[SpursDynasty85]

2016-2017 Kawhi was probably one of the most complete players of all-time. I mean he was Jordan +Pippen on defense and pretty much an all star om offense too. Then our lives and happiness depended on getting equal value for him. When this did not happen, Spurstalk became cry baby city.

[PublicOption]

NO 3 POINT SHOT.

[TDMVPDPOY]

fkn low iq player

[JADG79]

He need the ball to create his own shot most of the time with no 3 pts range.

[Manu20]

DeRozan has his flaws but he did put up 21pts 6reb 6ast per game last season. If we do compare to Kawhi of course he doesn't come close to him but $hit happened.

[boutons_deux]

DeRozan has his flaws but he did put up 21pts 6reb 6ast per game last season. If we do compare to Kawhi of course he doesn't come close to him but $hit happened.

If DDR gave us his November numbers all year, esp in the playoffs (where he annually droops), the song would be different.

[Gagnrath]

Short reason why we are displeased with DeRozan and Aldridge..... Is because they are guys that have the basketball talent and abilities to lead championship teams but don't have the personal leadership ability. Both of them are good guys and very good basketball players. Both of them are probably fairly compensated, and yes winning championships in basketball takes some luck and timing as well. Both these guys lack championship heart however and well in order for a team to consistently in seven game series against talent on the same level you have to have someone who can will their way through a game to a win. It also has to be a guy who is a legitimate top talent.

[DeadlyDynasty]

If DDR gave us his November numbers all year, esp in the playoffs (where he annually droops), the song would be different.

yeah, and if Ryan Fitzpatrick put up his September #'s all year he'd be a 1st-ballot HOFer

[Clipper Nation]

DeRozan is a younger Jamal Crawford. No joke, last time I checked the playoff efficiency stats, they were scarily similar, and not in a good way.

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

He has no killer instinct, feels like he's just playing for a paycheck.

[acoelho1]

There was a stretch last year that DDR played some really good ball. He's not Melo by any means. For one, he's a much better distributor and put in the right situation, he would thrive in our system. I think for the Spurs to succeed, we need to lean more heavily on Murray and White and have DDR play a more complimentary role instead of trying to be the alpha dog. He also NEEDS to shoot some 3's. I hope like White, he's shooting 500 3's a day in the summer. I think this team are le contenders even with the flaws in DDR's game.

[4down]

SA made the playoffs with no Kawhi and no DeRozan the season before. I think the ceiling is lower without DeRozan but the floor was no different.

He had to replace what Dejounte was doing on the fly. A pretty tall ask when you think about how high people were on Murray and that DeRozan was in his first year in the Spurs system. Now we'll get to see how he does with Murray as a running mate

[Seventyniner]

He had to replace what Dejounte was doing on the fly. A pretty tall ask when you think about how high people were on Murray and that DeRozan was in his first year in the Spurs system. Now we'll get to see how he does with Murray as a running mate

True. Last year's squad was built, especially the free agent signings, assuming that Number Two, Danny, and Dejounte would all be around. This offseason is much more coherent.

[itzsoweezee]

He has huge shortcomings that get completely exposed in the playoffs. There's a reason the NBA has moved away from his style of play, and why Carmelo can't get a job

And it has nothing to do with Spurs fans being spoiled. Ask raptors fans what they think of him, or professional NBA writers.

He's be good as a role player. Unfortunately, his impact on the salary cap far exceeds his potential contribution to winning.

[TheGreatYacht]

Tony Parker was a similar case. During the Big 3 Era, he was the engine -- and sometimes his advanced stats suffered due to it (not all the time like DeRozan, though, obviously). Compare that to Manu Ginobili who played a role coming off the bench that was specifically designed to be take advantage of other team's weaknesses -- who also played the highest percentage of his minutes alongside the other two members of the Big 3 -- and it was no wonder he was an advanced stats god.

Gotta put those stats into context, tbh. It's not as simple as believing good advanced stats = good player, bad advanced stats = bad player.

Delivering the goods as per usual tbh

[MultiTroll]

$ Contract amount / years vs what he brings to team is the bottom line dissatisfaction factor.

If he had an average salary with less years it would match his on court output.

[poopbox]

Since he doesn't shoot 3's...or really catch and shoot period...he is not very useful on the offensive end when the ball is not in his hands...

Goes into "i'm going to get a foul call" mode WAY to much...

And some of it is just bad fit...Derozan was devastating at times when he was surrounded with shooters and either LMA or Poeltl as the lone big.. but we have white who is going to have the ball alot...dejounte who is going to have the ball a lot...Walker who I anticipate have the ball at least some...and so Derozan is just not going to get many minutes to do the one thing he does really well...

Shame cause he flashed some real brilliance in some games as thee primary ball handler...he was the main reason the team didn't crater in the beginning of the season after all the injuries...

[Spurs da champs]

Basically what El Nono said though. Only kitchen dwellers like TPark celebrate mediocrity.

[SpurSpike]

He's a good player but needs a mental coach to teach him how to keep his calm when things aren't going his way. If he learned to put his emotions in check it could imo help him reach the next level.

[timtonymanu]

Mr Empty Stats at 21/6/6 while barely posting a net positive. But yeah, he deserves those $27 mil. Most of you dumb s PATFO slurpers will come around once he doesn’t get extended.

Basement dweller, drink draino.