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he is not a winner especially for the money
I'm just wondering why everyone is so down on him. I think he's pretty good and worth every penny.
nope
he is not a winner especially for the money
Worth 27.5 million . Whatever your on must be some good stuff man.
He's a failure when it matters tbh.
C'mon man, he can't shoot 3s, mucks up the offense, mediocre on defense, chucks basketballs at referees
DeRozan is our Melo... Puts up numbers, but makes the team worse because of his game... The only difference is that Melo was at least clutch in his prime... DDR is on the downside of his career... The guy is just empty stats
He isn't consistent defensively, can't shoot 3's, and in my opinion the most important issue, is he is mentally weak. With all that said, he is still a very talented player that could have been more than he is.
Here’s my issue he’s been in the league almost 10 years and still doesn’t have a 3 point shot. Derrick White is in his 2nd year and is putting up 500 threes a day... that’s why I’m not a fan of dd.. he’s a wasted talent.
He plays 90s ball basically in 2020. My dude’s old school game is outdated and he’s seemed to refuse to address it.
Honestly? It's because we Spurs fans have been spoiled by having an all-time great playing at a high level on the roster the previous 30+ years.
DeRozan has flaws and isn't an all-time great but he's better than the ST consensus, tbh.
nothing more then a overglorified corey maggette
So how do you reconcile that nearly every statistic has him as pretty overrated? I don’t think people think he truly sucks; I think people can’t reconcile how his talent truly relates to being a legitimate all-star to build around.
derozan is a legit all star level player who is a solid teammate and has bought into the spurs system. his defense is very much improved but inconsistent. also he legit carried this team for a good stretch last year, got hurt then played through it like a soldier despite the negative impacts on his own stats. then led the spurs in almost all basic statistical offensive categories in the playoffs.
all of this despite learning the spurs system in his first year and mostly playing out of his natural SG position
derozan isnt kawhi or duncan but he should get more love
Last year would have ing sucked without DeRozan.
DeRozan's talent is to be the engine of a team that other players feed off of. His value is he uses a lot of possessions at a reasonably high level ... and a lot of times he's stuck using possessions where things have broken down and it's up to him to go one-on-one. Unless the player is a top 20 player all-time, such players usually don't have pretty advanced stats because they're doing the heavy lifting to lighten the load on everyone else.
Tony Parker was a similar case. During the Big 3 Era, he was the engine -- and sometimes his advanced stats suffered due to it (not all the time like DeRozan, though, obviously). Compare that to Manu Ginobili who played a role coming off the bench that was specifically designed to be take advantage of other team's weaknesses -- who also played the highest percentage of his minutes alongside the other two members of the Big 3 -- and it was no wonder he was an advanced stats god.
Gotta put those stats into context, tbh. It's not as simple as believing good advanced stats = good player, bad advanced stats = bad player.
I know people will dislike this but I do not want to lose white nor Dejounte so I would trade DeMar for draft picks.
That makes some sense and absolutely context matters. But he’s paid like a top 20 player and to be so consistently rated so poorly across most statistics? I mean...I dont know how much context can be provided when every thing (even flawed) seems to scream the same thing when pieced together.
I think it’s more that the league has changed and you can’t really be a star if you have zero value off the ball and very little ability to positively impact the game on off shooting nights.
He’s a very talented player, but his flaws require near perfect team building to max that out to the point where it may be next to futile to pursue said build. I don’t know. It’s one of the more interesting cases of eye test vs stats vs perception etc..
SA made the playoffs with no Kawhi and no DeRozan the season before. I think the ceiling is lower without DeRozan but the floor was no different.
Sounds like Melo. Well liked by his teammates... Lead the team in offense, played out of position a lot... That doesn't change the fact that he has a negative impact on the team when it comes to winning... He has shown us this his entire career... Now he is on the downside of his career and we expect him to change suddenly?
And how exactly has he bought into the Spurs system? What is he doing differently that he wasn't doing in Toronto? He looks even worse to me than he looked in Toronto... The guy looks awful playing off the ball... Trade him while we can! I predicted last season that we would lose in the first round despite having two all star caliber players, and we did.. That's because I watch basketball outside of the Spurs, so I know how ty DDR is and how he makes teams worse
We would have been a better team last year with no DDR and having Walker in his place (or any mediocre vet that can shoot a 3 and play some semblance of defense)
I've been calling for this forever
Bro... We actually watch the games and can see he isn't a good player... He is Melo... All empty stats I guarantee if we trade him now, we get better immediately
He replaced nephew. This forum expected him as good as that
because he is paid to be a team leader, plays no defense, and his offense disappears when it matter most. and throughout the course of the game, his lack of jump shooting threat makes things difficult for everyone else.
It be nice to see him have some playoff success in san antonio
Funny thing is he was pretty good this playoffs..
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