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    Simple. All Russia/China has to do to prevent sanctions is to tag team up with each other and tell the US to bend over and take it or we're launching nukes, first we're going to make a nuclear wasteland out of the NATO countries and Israel and then we're going to throw a barrage of thousands of nukes at the US mainland; and there's going to to be mass assured destruction and we have little to lose and you have everything to lose, being the "good ole" U.S.A. and all.

    While Russia or China could never take down the U.S. on their own, they are the perfect combination, along with satellite allies in Iran and North Korea, to team up to defeat the US and make the US surrender or risk mutually assured destruction and hundreds of millions of lives vaporized and killed globally. Both China and Russia have loads of nukes, but China doesn't have enough experience or intelligence, while Russia doesn't have enough manpower. China + Russia in a nuclear WWIII is an indestructible combo.
    You are absolutely braindead.
    What sort of bad fumes did you inhale to write down this piss poor fantasy. You got to be able to do better than this.

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    Simple. All Russia/China has to do to prevent sanctions is to tag team up with each other and tell the US to bend over and take it or we're launching nukes, first we're going to make a nuclear wasteland out of the NATO countries and Israel and then we're going to throw a barrage of thousands of nukes at the US mainland; and there's going to to be mass assured destruction and we have little to lose and you have everything to lose, being the "good ole" U.S.A. and all.

    While Russia or China could never take down the U.S. on their own, they are the perfect combination, along with satellite allies in Iran and North Korea, to team up to defeat the US and make the US surrender or risk mutually assured destruction and hundreds of millions of lives vaporized and killed globally. Both China and Russia have loads of nukes, but China doesn't have enough experience or intelligence, while Russia doesn't have enough manpower. China + Russia in a nuclear WWIII is an indestructible combo.
    2/10

    The moment Russia and/or China say that, they're entirely wiped out of the earth. It's simply a lot easier to wipe out the head of those countries than it is to launch and land ICBMs all over the US, Europe, Israel, Asia and Oceania.

    Again, your premise is that these countries are stupid. They aren't. China especially has a sweet deal going on with the US economically and it took them decades to get to where they are.

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    I've said both Trump and Putin... I've said Trump numerous times here over the yrs but yall only read/hear what yall want to and nothing else.

    Now I'll continue on and say you and Dumpster too!
    Well Okay then.

    Can you help me buy some pastry? And...
    Is there anything that you have NOT said "fkthat" to then? Its gotta be a much shorter list.

    Did you say fk Thread for being a commie?

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    The moment Russia and/or China say that, they're entirely wiped out of the earth. It's simply a lot easier to wipe out the head of those countries than it is to launch and land ICBMs all over the US, Europe, Israel, Asia and Oceania.

    Again, your premise is that these countries are stupid. They aren't. China especially has a sweet deal going on with the US economically and it took them decades to get to where they are.
    2?

    You can use negative numbers when its this bad.

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    Simple. All Russia/China has to do to prevent sanctions is to tag team up with each other and tell the US to bend over and take it or we're launching nukes, first we're going to make a nuclear wasteland out of the NATO countries and Israel and then we're going to throw a barrage of thousands of nukes at the US mainland; and there's going to to be mass assured destruction and we have little to lose and you have everything to lose, being the "good ole" U.S.A. and all.

    While Russia or China could never take down the U.S. on their own, they are the perfect combination, along with satellite allies in Iran and North Korea, to team up to defeat the US and make the US surrender or risk mutually assured destruction and hundreds of millions of lives vaporized and killed globally. Both China and Russia have loads of nukes, but China doesn't have enough experience or intelligence, while Russia doesn't have enough manpower. China + Russia in a nuclear WWIII is an indestructible combo.
    you've watched one too many Russian army underwear model recruitment ads.

    Ignoring other NATO country capabilities, the US alone has 14 Ohio-Class nuclear submarines at undisclosed locations around the world (they're extremely stealthy subs that are near impossible for other countries to track, and you can bet with what's going on the US has most of them in striking distance of Russia right now), and each one has the ability to launch 192 nuclear warheads (it only takes a few minutes to assign coordinates & launch). That's over 2,500 nuclear warheads (each one being 30x more powerful than what we dropped at Hiroshima) that Russia and China would never be able to take out in a first strike, exponentially more than Russia and China's nuclear capability in a first strike put together.

    The US could wipe every major Chinese and Russian city off the map in a few minutes by pressing a few minutes. You're a colossal idiot if you think Russia and China could ever win a nuclear war with the US, even if they were the ones who struck first.

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    The moment Russia and/or China say that, they're entirely wiped out of the earth. It's simply a lot easier to wipe out the head of those countries than it is to launch and land ICBMs all over the US, Europe, Israel, Asia and Oceania.

    Again, your premise is that these countries are stupid. They aren't. China especially has a sweet deal going on with the US economically and it took them decades to get to where they are.
    the Russian military can't even hit its targets in Ukraine with any precision, yet the pedocons think they'd be able to get in a nuclear missile measuring contest with the US and come out on top.

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    you've watched one too many Russian army underwear model recruitment ads.

    Ignoring other NATO country capabilities, the US alone has 14 Ohio-Class nuclear submarines at undisclosed locations around the world (they're extremely stealthy subs that are near impossible for other countries to track, and you can bet with what's going on the US has most of them in striking distance of Russia right now), and each one has the ability to launch 192 nuclear warheads (it only takes a few minutes to assign coordinates & launch). That's over 2,500 nuclear warheads (each one being 30x more powerful than what we dropped at Hiroshima) that Russia and China would never be able to take out in a first strike, exponentially more than Russia and China's nuclear capability in a first strike put together.

    The US could wipe every major Chinese and Russian city off the map in a few minutes by pressing a few minutes. You're a colossal idiot if you think Russia and China could ever win a nuclear war with the US, even if they were the ones who struck first.
    Nobody wins a nuclear exchange.

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    Nobody wins a nuclear exchange.
    100% agreed, a M.A.D. scenario between the US and China/Russia could very well lead to the end of mankind, but that also means the end of Putin and Xi. Neither Putin nor Xi is a madman the way dumb Amerifats think they are.

    Xi especially isn't going to risk nuclear destruction to help Russia right now. His country has an economy that's codependent with the US and other NATO countries, he can't afford to taken Putin's side.

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    100% agreed, a M.A.D. scenario between the US and China/Russia could very well lead to the end of mankind, but that also means the end of Putin and Xi. Neither Putin nor Xi is a madman the way dumb Amerifats think they are.

    Xi especially isn't going to risk nuclear destruction to help Russia right now. His country has an economy that's codependent with the US and other NATO countries, he can't afford to taken Putin's side.
    Please. China released COVID, killed 1 million+ Americans and Biden permitted X to skate on it.

    X has already taken Putin's side. You know how we know this, Will? Putin is inside Ukraine bombing Ukraine.

    I'll agree though that X doesn't want nuclear war, he's already got us by the short hairs, & owns Biden, but, Putin?...

    - "Careful."

    - "John Coffey" - "The Green Mile"

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    Please. China released COVID, killed 1 million+ Americans and Biden permitted X to skate on it.

    X has already taken Putin's side. You know how we know this, Will? Putin is inside Ukraine bombing Ukraine.

    I'll agree though that X doesn't want nuclear war, he's already got us by the short hairs, & owns Biden, but, Putin?...

    - "Careful."

    - "John Coffey" - "The Green Mile"
    now you're claiming it was BIDEN who permitted Xi to skate on lying to the world about COVID?

    Reminder:

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    Nobody wins a nuclear exchange.
    As long as we don't exchange with Russia we win. And as long as Biden doesn't intervene in Ukraine as Putin has warned him not to Putin won't hit us. And we won't hit him regardless as to who Putin would hit.

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    now you're claiming it was BIDEN who permitted Xi to skate on lying to the world about COVID?
    Yes, X is skating and Biden is allowing it.

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    Yes, X is skating and Biden is allowing it.
    But Trump said Xi was working very hard to contain the virus

    Was Trump lying?

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    But Trump said Xi was working very hard to contain the virus

    Was Trump lying?
    Biden is squattin' in the White House. X killed 600,000 of the 1 million Americans while Biden squats.

    Biden let X skate.

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    Biden is squattin' in the White House. X killed 600,000 of the 1 million Americans while Biden squats.

    Biden let X skate.
    Non sequitur.

    Your capitulation is duly noted.

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    Non sequitur.

    Your capitulation is duly noted.
    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.

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    100% agreed, a M.A.D. scenario between the US and China/Russia could very well lead to the end of mankind, but that also means the end of Putin and Xi. Neither Putin nor Xi is a madman the way dumb Amerifats think they are.

    Xi especially isn't going to risk nuclear destruction to help Russia right now. His country has an economy that's codependent with the US and other NATO countries, he can't afford to taken Putin's side.
    Not necessarily mankind as a whole, but the majority of the upper half of the Northern Hemisphere for sure. The trade winds would carry the nuclear materials and ash along a belt extending from west to east across the globe between the 20 and 60 degree North parallel (depending on where the nukes actually hit), rendering much of it inhospitable to humans and most animal life as well. Depending on the season (winter, early spring, late fall) it could be worse and a swifter punishment than if the nukes hit closer to summer time where the zonal trade winds are mostly prevailing as opposed to the strong westerly winds.

    The deep tropics and Southern Hemisphere would largely be spared unless Australia was clobbered by nukes. Real estate in the Southern Hemisphere countries would be at an all time high and there would be mass evacuations and stampedes to colonizing South America, much of Africa, various islands and even the Australian Outback. Life would be quite different for sure but humanity would persist.

    Ignoring other NATO country capabilities, the US alone has 14 Ohio-Class nuclear submarines at undisclosed locations around the world (they're extremely stealthy subs that are near impossible for other countries to track, and you can bet with what's going on the US has most of them in striking distance of Russia right now), and each one has the ability to launch 192 nuclear warheads (it only takes a few minutes to assign coordinates & launch). That's over 2,500 nuclear warheads (each one being 30x more powerful than what we dropped at Hiroshima) that Russia and China would never be able to take out in a first strike, exponentially more than Russia and China's nuclear capability in a first strike put together.

    The US could wipe every major Chinese and Russian city off the map in a few minutes by pressing a few [buttons - fify]. You're a colossal idiot if you think Russia and China could ever win a nuclear war with the US, even if they were the ones who struck first.
    While I hope that's true, it's definitely a given that, even if the Russian/Chinese/NK ICBM's were generally wildly inaccurate, there would be mass destruction across the USA and much of the lower 48, if not the majority of it, would be rendered inhospitable to live in for at least a generation or two. Like you said, they're up to 30x more powerful than Hiroshima these days, so it's not a situation like Hiroshima where they can just start the rebuilding process and rebuild the cities.

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    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.
    Neh, you're definitely not the first to capitulate here

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    Not necessarily mankind as a whole, but the majority of the upper half of the Northern Hemisphere for sure. The trade winds would carry the nuclear materials and ash along a belt extending from west to east across the globe between the 20 and 60 degree North parallel (depending on where the nukes actually hit), rendering much of it inhospitable to humans and most animal life as well. Depending on the season (winter, early spring, late fall) it could be worse and a swifter punishment than if the nukes hit closer to summer time where the zonal trade winds are mostly prevailing as opposed to the strong westerly winds.

    The deep tropics and Southern Hemisphere would largely be spared unless Australia was clobbered by nukes. Real estate in the Southern Hemisphere countries would be at an all time high and there would be mass evacuations and stampedes to colonizing South America, much of Africa, various islands and even the Australian Outback. Life would be quite different for sure but humanity would persist.
    Nuclear winter. Go look up what that is.

    Regardless, you're basically arguing Putin and Xi are irrational actors who are going to say "either let Russia occupy Ukraine or we instigate a nuclear holocaust where the entire northern hemisphere, including both of our countries, gets wiped off the map."

    While I hope that's true, it's definitely a given that, even if the Russian/Chinese/NK ICBM's were generally wildly inaccurate, there would be mass destruction across the USA and much of the lower 48, if not the majority of it, would be rendered inhospitable to live in for at least a generation or two. Like you said, they're up to 30x more powerful than Hiroshima these days, so it's not a situation like Hiroshima where they can just start the rebuilding process and rebuild the cities.
    When you say "you hope that's true", what about it do you think is false? It seems like you're ignoring verifiable facts and just believing Tucker Carlson's glib analysis about how Russia's military is stronger than ours because our military has pronoun diversity training while Russia hires big and strong male underwear models for its recruitment ads that get you hot and bothered.

    I said the US warheads are 30x more powerful than Hiroshima. I didn't say how much power Russian/Chinese warheads have, but I seriously doubt they're as powerful as our warheads are. Also, Russia has just over 500 armed nuclear warheads on submarines. We have over 2,500 (14 x 24 x 8).

    You're also ignoring how much better our global missile defense system is than Russia's. Hypothetically, if each country launched 100 nukes at the other, a lot more of our nukes would get through than their nukes would. It would still be a doomsday scenario for us, but it would be a lot worse for Russia.

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    Neh, you're definitely not the first to capitulate here
    That is a sure sign he got his ass kick up and down the stairs!

    People that take meds do that.

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    Nuclear winter. Go look up what that is.

    Regardless, you're basically arguing Putin and Xi are irrational actors who are going to say "either let Russia occupy Ukraine or we instigate a nuclear holocaust where the entire northern hemisphere, including both of our countries, gets wiped off the map."


    When you say "you hope that's true", what about it do you think is false? It seems like you're ignoring verifiable facts and just believing Tucker Carlson's glib analysis about how Russia's military is stronger than ours because our military has pronoun diversity training while Russia hires big and strong male underwear models for its recruitment ads that get you hot and bothered.

    I said the US warheads are 30x more powerful than Hiroshima. I didn't say how much power Russian/Chinese warheads have, but I seriously doubt they're as powerful as our warheads are. Also, Russia has just over 500 armed nuclear warheads on submarines. We have over 2,500 (14 x 24 x 8).

    You're also ignoring how much better our global missile defense system is than Russia's. Hypothetically, if each country launched 100 nukes at the other, a lot more of our nukes would get through than their nukes would. It would still be a doomsday scenario for us, but it would be a lot worse for Russia.
    I know exactly what the nuclear winter theory is. It's similar to the super volcano theory. It is real and would cause a temporary mini ice age across the world, but humanity would not go extinct-- they would just suffer for a few years until they adapt and conditions would gradually begin improving. No question it would take a long time for the nuclear affected areas to be repatriated by humans and other walks of life.

    The pronoun diversity training thing is stupid, and there should be standards of physical toughness in the military 100%. No I don't get "hot and bothered" about Russian or Chinese men being trained on machoness, like I could care less. But I do have my doubts about the US military being in such a strong position compared to the rest of the world as compared to say, the mid 1940s. We couldn't even win in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. We couldn't win all of Korea for free democracy and we couldn't even save HALF of Vietnam. The US has been a colossal failure since the end of WWII. In essence the US military has gone 0.5-4.5 since WWII, with two losses in Iraq, one loss in Afghanistan and a loss in Vietnam and a stalemate in Korea. Plus losing a critical ally in Iran to the jihadist ayatollah maniacs in 1979.

    The US has been pathetic in handling petty guerrilla warfare, so what makes you think they can defeat (a) the largest country by population with the 2nd largest GDP, [and] (b) the country with the largest amount of nukes and largest amount of land in the world ... paired together?

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    The pronoun diversity training thing is stupid, and there should be standards of physical toughness in the military 100%. No I don't get "hot and bothered" about Russian or Chinese men being trained on machoness, like I could care less. But I do have my doubts about the US military being in such a strong position compared to the rest of the world as compared to say, the mid 1940s. We couldn't even win in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. We couldn't win all of Korea for free democracy and we couldn't even save HALF of Vietnam. The US has been a colossal failure since the end of WWII.
    What about what I said regarding our nuclear capabilities was wrong? Be specific or fold. These are verifiable facts. Using our inability to effectively nation build as the reason for why our military is inferior to Russia's is insanely re ed though.

    We occupied Afghanistan and Iraq with ease, creating a functional government in each country that could stand alone without US involvement is where we struggled, and that has nothing to do with military strength or how we would fare in a nuclear battle with Russia. Do you seriously think we couldn't have used nukes to wipe Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea of Vietnam off the map if we wanted to?

    So far, Russia can't even get to the part where they successfully occupy a country they share a border with, let alone the part where they're able to successfully install a puppet government that functions independently. The pathetic part is that Russia is invading in a manner where they don't care about how much human life is lost along the way. If we invaded Iraq in the same manner - where we weren't concerned about the loss of life - we'd have been able to topple Baghdad in a few days.

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    The US has been pathetic in handling petty guerrilla warfare, so what makes you think they can defeat (a) the largest country by population with the 2nd largest GDP, [and] (b) the country with the largest amount of nukes and largest amount of land in the world ... paired together?
    Because:

    1) A conflict with those countries would be decided by nuclear arsenal and raw military might, not the ability to take on guerilla fighters in ragtag third world holes.
    2) Having a large amount of uninhabitable land isn't relevant
    3) Most of Russia's nuclear arsenal is in reserves. It only has 1,200 - 1,500 nukes that are ready for combat, that's literally half of what we just have in terms of nukes on our submarines.

    What that a serious question?

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    Dale getting smoked again. Just like Trump when he lost Georgia.

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    But Trump said Xi was working very hard to contain the virus

    Was Trump lying?
    and specifically praised their transparency

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