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    spurs were going for home runs and struck out in the last 3 or 4 draft years. Lets not forget the luka miss.... all the experts were wondering what the the spurs were doing..and they were right.. kawai was the last gem..
    Missing in the late teens is pretty common, and that would encompass Sammich and Lonnie. No one hits at 100%, and no one hits as often as the Spurs do.

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    Let the record show that I called this on draft tonight, and should therefor be a part of the Spurs’ decision-making process moving forward tbh.

    From the 2020 Draft Thread:

    Damn. Can’t believe we passed on Halliburton, a true PG who’s 6’5, plays good Defense, shoots the 3 at a high clip, and is a good passer. Really wish we would’ve drafted him and traded Dejounte. He’s already better at every aspect of the game than DJ and he doesn’t seem to obsess over Instagram like Murray does. There’s a reason the analysts are saying the Kings got the steal of the night. Spurs blew it tbh.

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    Let the record show that I called this on draft tonight tbh.

    From the 2020 Draft Thread:
    At the time, DJ would have pitched a fit. He was pretty immature, and I don't think he even liked them drafting White a few years earlier. In the long run, we got Vassell, 3 FRPs and one FRP swap out of not drafting Hali. If we drafted Hali, DJ never makes the ASG, and we don't get the bag for him. We probably don't get Wemby, either.

    Good prognostication, though.

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    I realize this is a troll thread and I've said this ad nauseam, but the only justification (who cares what him or his representation supposedly preferred) was because they appeared to refuse to re-build and White and Murray seemed entrenched.

    No one could have foreseen Haliburton becoming a top 5 offensive player analytically, but he clearly had a higher offensive ceiling than either of them and is a central casting Spur.

    Lucking into Wembanyama 3 years later doesn't excuse it either.

    I'm more apt to give them Primo over Sengun and Murphy III, even though it was obvious they'd become the players they're becoming and he was a mystery box with a good chance of busting.

    At least then, you could argue they were in search of a foundational star (who wouldn't lose value in the post season), with no high lottery picks with which to find it.

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    Word came out Haliburton's reps were telling a lot of teams not to draft him if they didn't see a good situation. Good chance Spurs were one of those teams because they had Murray and White at the time, but in saying that, the Kings were a basket case with Fox on the roster.
    AusSpur is on the money here but there are conflicting reports.
    A couple of links re: 'Orchestration' V 'Dissatisfaction'

    https://kingsherald.com/draft-news/2...ngs-lowe-post/

    https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2...ft-motivation/

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    AusSpur is on the money here but there are conflicting reports.
    A couple of links re: 'Orchestration' V 'Dissatisfaction'

    https://kingsherald.com/draft-news/2...ngs-lowe-post/

    https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2...ft-motivation/
    The NBA needs to figure out how to keep these guys from icing teams.

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    The NBA needs to figure out how to keep these guys from icing teams.
    I will take Wemby over Halli in a million years. With Halli, spurs would have never drafted Wemby. With Wemby in place, let find another Halli or poor man's version of Halli.

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    Re ed take. His draft picks have been excellent. Pointing out one player he missed on several years and two teams after the fact is idiotic.
    It was a question not a take

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    It was a question not a take
    You question doesn’t have a question mark.

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    CoJo than Jimmy Butler

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    It was a question not a take
    It was a rhetorical question, which is a take.

    Unless you were actually asking why the Spurs hired Wright, in which case nobody understands how the question is relevant to drafting Devin Vassell over Tyrese Haliburton.

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    Haliburton is on his second team. I'm puzzled why fans would want to be the team that drafted him.

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    You’re absolutely 100% wrong on this point. Winning 10 more games makes your chances at Wemby drop off a cliff.
    The Spurs won the lottery with the lost coin toss against Houston.

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    The NBA needs to figure out how to keep these guys from icing teams.
    Not sure there is much that they can do (and not sure that they should honestly).

    IIRC, Spurs have played the disinformation game before too with Nic Batum and Rudy G back in the day.
    There are probably countless stories that have gone untold over the years with teams jockeying for draft positions, agents protecting a client's interest etc.

    At the end of the day if a rookie fails to report or wants the team to bend to every whim, they often find themselves out of the league in short order.
    (See Royce White and Kai Jones for some recent examples).

    It's up to the teams at the end of the day and again have some have mentioned, with a budding All-Star in DJ and backcourt running mate in Derrick White locked up to deals;
    a 3 and D wing w. upside was probably considered a higher priority and easier draft choice at the end of the day.

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    I was not the biggest Vassell believer before the season, but if Vassell had a competent PG playing next to him, it would look even less of a "miss" compared to Haliburton. Vassell shot selection is poor this year (because the offense sucks) but his talent is overcoming that. Vassell will really thrive next to Wemby once a real PG is in place.

    So yeah, we missed Haliburton but it's not like we did something insane and drafted someone like Josh Primo over him.

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    Wiseman, Williams, Okoro,Okungwu, Hayes, Toppin, Avdija,Smith would have been ‘misses’ worth crying over. Vassell is not.

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    Haliburton at No. 11 in the 2020 draft, but selected Vassel instead. Haliburton went No. 12 to the Kings. Lets see.......


    Avg FG 3pt Ast

    Vassel 18.3 49.5 40.9 2.7

    Haliburton 26.9 52.1 44.9 11.9



    Damn
    If Haliburton was with us, he wouldn't be putting up these type of numbers. Haven't you guys realized yet that players like this normally don't put up those type of numbers with us that they do with other teams? Jokic wouldn't be Jokic under popovich.

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    Jokes aside, this kid is hoopin’ rn tbh.


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    Jokes aside, this kid is hoopin’ rn tbh.

    He’s hooping like a mother er, but his team is bottom half in the EC playoffs.

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    Haliburton is an awful defender and also the main reason the Pacers have no choice but to be an offense only team to win anything. Not sure how much you going to win in the long run having to be a top 5 offense every year.

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    Why did they hire Wright?
    Because he is a “Yes” man. Go look at the video on draft night, dude didn’t even want to take the phone from RC to draft Victor.

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    Haliburton at No. 11 in the 2020 draft, but selected Vassel instead. Haliburton went No. 12 to the Kings. Lets see.......


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    Vassel 18.3 49.5 40.9 2.7

    Haliburton 26.9 52.1 44.9 11.9



    Damn
    Other than picking the obvious in Wemby, I can’t say the GM has found a gem who turned out to have star potential… I like Vassell just fine but there’s been definite misses.

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    This. Halliburton is a superstar but Wemby has the potential to be one of the greatest so it's a moot point and worked out well.

    Thing is, we used to be one of the best drafters in the league, how did we pass up Halliburton's talent for Vassell? How did we pass up Sengun when he was available and went at pick 16? Why did we choose Lonnie, why did we choose the pervert who flashes people when there was more talent available (already forgot the perves name haha) There's many more other examples in recent history.

    More than missing out on Halliburton you have to ask why we're failing in the draft and missing out on some really nice talents. The front office need to improve on this area while Wemby is young and get him his running mate.
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    If they pick Halliburton, they don’t get Wemby, period. Indy completely failed in their tank, picking 8th last draft. Hali raised their floor too high, and he would have raised ours, too.
    You underestimate the pop effect

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    Idk but we appreciate it

    That makes up for blowing #2 pick in 2021 and then missing out on Chet and Paolo in 2022. And then the coin flip thing in 2023. Good for you though. Gotta take the small wins where you can find them.

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