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    They did one of those Spurs Stories videos, where they paired a youngster with a legend. They paired Sochan with Parker. Devin drew Ice, and it turns out that Devin’s dad was a HUGE Ice fan. The suggestion was probably during that interview.

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    If we're talking strictly this season, Barnes can do what Sochan does defensively tbh. If we're talking after this season, they can draft a guy that can do what Sochan does and let Castle slip in seamlessly into the SL (Castle was great at cutting at UConn). I think Steph will be in the SL no matter what by next year since CP0 is likely gone but the notion that Sochan should be fully entrenched into the SL without significant improvement is false IMO.
    Barnes can’t guard anybody

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    They did one of those Spurs Stories videos, where they paired a youngster with a legend. They paired Sochan with Parker. Devin drew Ice, and it turns out that Devin’s dad was a HUGE Ice fan. The suggestion was probably during that interview.
    Awesome. Would those videos be up on Youtube at all? If not, any idea where I could find them?

    Edit : Thanks for the link, LeBowen. When I posted I was on the previous page so I never saw it until after posting.
    Last edited by Ice009; 10-17-2024 at 12:24 PM.

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    Awesome. Would those videos be up on Youtube at all? If not, any idea where I could find them?
    One of them is embedded two posts above yours…

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    Barnes can’t guard anybody
    Barnes is lauded here,but if he were a Spur,he’d be reviled like Sochan.

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    I hope he can keep that type of production up. This is what I meant when I talked about the 3rd year leap. He was killing Sengun in that game

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    Sochan is off to a very strong start this season.
    Averaging 19 and 9 on 52% shooting, mostly 2pt field goals.
    The rebounding is the most encouraging stat and I hope that continues.
    The comp early on was a Draymond / Boris Diaw mashup and he’s looking more like that guy.
    Biggest remaining area for improvement is assists and turnovers.
    I don’t expect him to ever be a consistent 3pt shooter and that may be ok.

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    His efforts on rebounding shown a glimpses of Rodman-esque tbh

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    Sochan is off to a very strong start this season.
    Averaging 19 and 9 on 52% shooting, mostly 2pt field goals.
    The rebounding is the most encouraging stat and I hope that continues.
    The comp early on was a Draymond / Boris Diaw mashup and he’s looking more like that guy.
    Biggest remaining area for improvement is assists and turnovers.
    I don’t expect him to ever be a consistent 3pt shooter and that may be ok.
    It may be a stretch- but if he ever became a competent 3pt shooter he turns into a different player. He definitely has the handles to penetrate.
    Of course if Castle ever gets a 3pt shot.....

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    Love the energy and effort he brings, but man that three point shot is looking busted.

    I know when you change your form, things are probably going to get worse before they get better but the mechanics are just all out of whack right now.

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    Devin isn't as talented/athletic as Gervin was. He doesn't have the abilities of Gervin( getting to the rim and attacking off the dribble to draw fouls).

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    Not versatile? lol JS is super versatile but he’s not the best shooter as we all know. Last year was the gift that keeps giving, it helped him to become more comfortable in grab/go situations as well as initiate offense better. We also were able to grab Stephon Castle….. He will need to continue polishing his game.

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    As much as I enjoy sochan I think his production will drop somewhat. I’d be ecstatic if he can turn into a 15/8/4 guy, shooting 50% from the field and hopefully about 30% from three.

    Love his hustle, love his at ude, his decision making is decent given his age and position, he has to learn how to react quicker with the ball, and obviously actually shoot the damn ball when open.

    So happy for him, he’s still my favourite current spur, but castle is moving in fast. I love both of their games but even I would acknowledge it’s really hard to have both on the floor the way they shoot.

    The at ude and talent is always there but this year he is really settling into a role that fits. He is really a role player but a darn good one.

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    his offensive production has been nice this year, and most of that has still come from him being an opportunistic scorer (and thats a good thing). finding ways to put yourself in position to catch and score is valuable, and despite being undersized and not particularly explosive, his finishing in the paint looks quite good so far.

    also looks like he's basically abandoned the three point shot, which also isnt exactly a bad thing.

    while his defense against doncic was admirable in game 1, he hasnt really made an impact on that end in either houston game, and i still think for him to get by as a garbage man on offense, he's going to have to be very productive/impactful defensively to justify a long term starting gig

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    Sochan is playing exactly how Wemby should: setting screens and rolling with purpose, making smarts cuts to the basket, posting up, bullying people inside.

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    Sochan is playing exactly how Wemby should: setting screens and rolling with purpose, making smarts cuts to the basket, posting up, bullying people inside.
    They’re not doubling and tripling Sochan. Wemby is walled off from the roll move most possessions. They’ll just let the guard go most of the time.

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    Sochan's been a pleasant surprise to start the season, but his outside/face up shot looks worse than ever. They must be completely rebuilding it ... I hope. His little faders in the lane that were just ugly and missed most of the time last season actually look pretty good though. Maybe he should try fading a bit on his shots or whatever is going to help him stay focused when shooting outside of the paint.

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    Devin isn't as talented/athletic as Gervin was. He doesn't have the abilities of Gervin( getting to the rim and attacking off the dribble to draw fouls).
    I mean the only person as talented as Ice on this team is Wemby so not really a knock on Vassell.

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    Sochan's been a pleasant surprise to start the season, but his outside/face up shot looks worse than ever. They must be completely rebuilding it ... I hope. His little faders in the lane that were just ugly and missed most of the time last season actually look pretty good though. Maybe he should try fading a bit on his shots or whatever is going to help him stay focused when shooting outside of the paint.
    might not be the worst thing for him to more or less abandon that shot. sure, if he catches the ball wide open with less than 4 on the clock, load it up and fire... but he shouldnt really be hunting outside jumpers anyway. as long as he has that short turnaround jumper and his touch/footwork in the paint is legit, he should be ok. i'm mostly just disappointed that his passing hasnt really translated. i had visions of him being draymond-lite, but hasnt really happened. at this point he's aspiring to be something closer to aaron gordon but he has a lot less strength/explosion.

    either way, he needs to be more of an impactful defender

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    Sochan is playing exactly how Wemby should: setting screens and rolling with purpose, making smarts cuts to the basket, posting up, bullying people inside.
    Wemby can't play that way because there's no spacing... That's why Sochan looks good... No one guards him... But that comes at the expense of Wemby's growth, development, and confidence... When Wemby rolls, sochan's man is there cutting it off... When Sochan rolls, the lane is clear because Wemby's man has to stay on him... That's y I've been saying we won't won a championship with Sochan being the best version of himself, but we will win one with Wemby being the best version of himself... Wemby CANNOT be the best version of himself consistently when Sochan is on the floor with him

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    I love what I see with Sochan early. Just go get cleanup points around the basket, run, rebound, play hard D and shoot the occasional open 3 to keep defenders honest. He will never be a top offensive weapon but his hustle and grit alone make him very valuable. He has the ability to be a very important contributing piece on well oil machine.

    I actually see him slowly phasing out Keldon as that energy guy.

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    The rebounding growth spurt is huge to making him a viable player. Modern day PF's who can't shoot the 3 ball and are weak rebounders wont survive. If can just make 30% of his three's he should be fine. 15/8 Sochan with good defense is Aaron Gordon with a worse three point shot but a more versatile defender.

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    There are only two players on this squad who have surprised me on a dunk: Wemby, numerous times, and Sochan on the baseline drive late, bumping Sengün and two hand flushing it over the top of ol’ Alpie. THAT was a confident play.

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    Can someone please bump that Sochan thread?

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