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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    Utah matchue up with us very well. And they beat us. But at least we don't play them again.

    But the Spurs need to start Ginobli. This is a bit ridiculous. You can face those other weak teams in the West in your current condition but if you want to beat Miami and Detriot you need to start Ginobli. And even Nazr, eventhough he cheats.
    you might wanna change your favorite team to detroit there, your post was confusing till i noticed you were not a spur fan

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    here are the problems:

    1. nesterovic is playing too much and contributing nothing.

    2. finley has no business starting. he was supposed to be a minor role player and that's what he should be now.

    3. after all these years, popovich still has no idea whatsoever what an NBA offense is supposed to look like.

    4. the rotation is completely stupid.

    5. no mental toughness on this team. that's been the spurs MO for YEARS. only one person to blame for that: popovich.

    there is no excuse for this lineup to come away with anything less than the championship. the spurs and popovich should be feeling really emabarassed right about now. somehow, i have a feeling that they're still not taking things seriously.

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    pop is cia pop, but he can't magically wave a wand and make his players mentally tough. that has to come from within. i seriously doubt pop is mentally weak and is a little more upset about the spurs play last night than us fans are.

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    pop is cia pop, but he can't magically wave a wand and make his players mentally tough. that has to come from within. i seriously doubt pop is mentally weak and is a little more upset about the spurs play last night than us fans are.
    i could accept that if it was one or two players that were not with it. but this has been a plague on the spurs for years. and it doesn't just pertain to a couple players. i know that these guys are professionals, but anyone who's played organized sports knows that if the players are not mentally prepared, it's the coach's fault for not getting them to be where they need to be.

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    mentally weak players don't come out in the 4th quarter of game 7 of the nba finals and turn a deficit into a 7 point victory.

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    mentally weak players don't come out in the 4th quarter of game 7 of the nba finals and turn a deficit into a 7 point victory.
    that's exactly my point. it's not the players that is the problem.

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    let's put it into perspective. the pistons are not this much better than the spurs but why is it looking like the spurs have no business even playing them? well the pistons lost at home to utah and then they come to san antonio and beat them. does that make any sense? no. i think at this point it's about matchups and effort. i believe the pistons really wanted these games a lot more than the spurs. the spurs started to want it as much as the pistons did when it was too late. rebounding is killing the spurs against the pistons, everyone on detroit is tall and/or with long arms. the spurs need to put more effort on rebounding or put some tall people in (maybe nazr). also i think its better if we don't see detroit in the playoffs... i mean its just about matchups..detroit is built to beat the spurs while other teams have a better rebounding edge on these pistons (miami)... i think at this point the pistons are better than the spurs but make no mistake about it. their shots went down tonight (that will not happen everynight). i think the spurs will learn a lot about effort, heart, and pride for the next time they play them.

    i want to play the pistons again. this doesn't happen again.

    we should meet you again. my prediction before the season started was pistons in 7 rasheed mvp, it's sliding towards 6 games because the pistons have shown they can really beat down the spurs on the road.

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    that's exactly my point. it's not the players that is the problem.
    even if all you guys are spur fans, everyone here should lnow pistons are a lot tougher. all of the starters and some bench players have had tough roads to get here.

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    even if all you guys are spur fans, everyone here should lnow pistons are a lot tougher. all of the starters and some bench players have had tough roads to get here.
    none of them had a tougher road to the nba than bowen.

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    none of them had a tougher road to the nba than bowen.

    see Ben Wallace

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    come on, "undrafted from Virginia Union" is just NBA code for "guaranteed superstar"

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    Bowen and Ben both had a very rough road to get where they are. Comparing backgrounds of players is a little odd.

    The Pistons are a very focused determined team right now - the Spurs are not.

    I'll leave it at that for now.

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    We will peak after the all-star break... we usually do.

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    We will peak after the all-star break... we usually do.
    I hope so, the final will be boring if that's all you've got.





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    He has a point. My dad is the occasional NBA game watcher and he said flat out that it looked like San Antonio was playing lazy and did not care.

    I did not notice this, but, I am biased.

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    Detroit has "that look" in their eyes. The Spurs don't.

    One team is playing like they have something to prove and one team appears to be resting on its' laurels. And the reality of the situation...that's probably 100% what's happening right now.

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    Why the Spurs looked so bad, and sooo lost, is 100% because of coaching.

    We have the talent...but, the only guys who could do anything offensively, did it because they went 1 on 1. Manu, Parker, Nick. Finley's not a 1 on 1 player, so can't be as productive with no set plays for him. , even Bowen had to go 1 on 1 to make his couple of points.

    Parker had 0 assists...coaching.
    Outrebounded by 20+...coaching.
    Finley having 0 points...coaching.

    Defense is great..but, you have to score as well.

    Detroit has the best of both worlds. They had Larry Brown last year teaching Defense...and Chip this year focusing on Offense. And it sure as shows.

    Spurs offensive sets are a joke. No movement, and when they do move, it's like they have no clue. A few top side picks for Parker and Ginobli..and thats about it. Very few inside picks and movement to get guys open.

    It's time for the coaches to start designing more effective offensive sets.
    Those old days... How things changed... This guy knew what he was saying

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    better late than never

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    @ anyone who says the '05 Spurs > '14 Spurs.

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