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Rebounding differential of 24+ .. that's why the Spurs looked bad against the Pistons in their two games this season.
let's put it into perspective. the pistons are not this much better than the spurs but why is it looking like the spurs have no business even playing them? well the pistons lost at home to utah and then they come to san antonio and beat them. does that make any sense? no. i think at this point it's about matchups and effort. i believe the pistons really wanted these games a lot more than the spurs. the spurs started to want it as much as the pistons did when it was too late. rebounding is killing the spurs against the pistons, everyone on detroit is tall and/or with long arms. the spurs need to put more effort on rebounding or put some tall people in (maybe nazr). also i think its better if we don't see detroit in the playoffs... i mean its just about matchups..detroit is built to beat the spurs while other teams have a better rebounding edge on these pistons (miami)... i think at this point the pistons are better than the spurs but make no mistake about it. their shots went down tonight (that will not happen everynight). i think the spurs will learn a lot about effort, heart, and pride for the next time they play them.
i want to play the pistons again. this doesn't happen again.
Rebounding differential of 24+ .. that's why the Spurs looked bad against the Pistons in their two games this season.
Regular season Spurs and Playoff Spurs are two different teams.
That's all there needs to be said.
Wow a team that has won 3 championships in recent years still needs to learn about effort, heart, and pride? Sounds like a group of dip players to me...
you can def. say the same thing about the pistons and thats what makes them MUCH scarier
We need a rebounder plain and simple, everything else is alright(once Finley emerges from his slump.
A focused Pistons team that plays defense and rebounds is hard to beat, Prince NEVER rebounds this well and Sheed was on fire, he didn't even need a tech to fire him up. Both losses to Utah were fatigue, lack of energy and intensity related. If they were playoff games no way the Pistons give up 14 point leads in both games.
I don't think the rebounding difference is something that's going to go away even with better effort.
The only two guys the Spurs have who can hope to match up physically with Detroit's front line are Duncan and Nazr.
That's not a lot of depth.
well buddy, thats what makes the difference between the spurs being the champs and detroit being the champs. the spurs will never be too proud not to admit that they have a deficiency, they're always a work in progress. We're not that proud not to admit that the Pistons kicked our asses effort wise
Jesus Christ!
Please ignore the idiots.
They do not represent us very well.
We need to find a rebounder. Hint: you won't find that person on the present Spurs squad.
Why the Spurs looked so bad, and sooo lost, is 100% because of coaching.
We have the talent...but, the only guys who could do anything offensively, did it because they went 1 on 1. Manu, Parker, Nick. Finley's not a 1 on 1 player, so can't be as productive with no set plays for him. , even Bowen had to go 1 on 1 to make his couple of points.
Parker had 0 assists...coaching.
Outrebounded by 20+...coaching.
Finley having 0 points...coaching.
Defense is great..but, you have to score as well.
Detroit has the best of both worlds. They had Larry Brown last year teaching Defense...and Chip this year focusing on Offense. And it sure as shows.
Spurs offensive sets are a joke. No movement, and when they do move, it's like they have no clue. A few top side picks for Parker and Ginobli..and thats about it. Very few inside picks and movement to get guys open.
It's time for the coaches to start designing more effective offensive sets.
It's the quickness/athleticism of the front court.
Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Antonio McDyess, Tayshaun Prince, Maurice Evans, Carlos Delfino.
-vs-
Rasho, Tim Duncan, Bruce Bowen, Nazr, Finley, Horry
That's a huge difference in quickness and athleticism up front. And the newfound movement in the Pistons offense (getting the Spurs bigs out of position) is exposing it. I'm sure Pop will figure something out though. It will likely be a compromise between less help defense and more rebounding. Plus the Spurs always double team Tayshaun off of one of the bigs inside which leaves them out of place when a shot goes up. You can't take a body off those guys.
That's just my take though.
Spurs' rebounding and defensive rotations were bad today: How many times did they try to double someone and Rasheed got a wide open dunk. This also resulted in Detroit getting offensive board after offensive board.
But like Kori said, no point in discussing defense if they're gonna score 68. I really hope they pick up their 3 pt shooting soon. It sucks ass now; in last year's playoffs our 3-shooting made a big difference.
I agree with what these two said!!
Excellent take FreshPrince 22. I'm not sure, however, there is anything for Pop to figure out as far as matching up with the Piston bigs. It's a personnel issue. With the present roster, the Spurs are going to have to be far more perfect in every other aspect of the game to make up for the disparity in length and athleticism. One thing to be outrebounded, a complete other to be destroyed with by well over 20 boards in two straight contests. Deep trouble.
"the reason why the spurs have looked bad vs. the pistons"
The Detroit Pistons are a pretty good team and played well against the Spurs.
The real reason why you can't beat us, is three point shots! Last year, we weren't allowed to shoot 3 pointers, and Larry Brown didn't like to defend the 3 pointers! Our scouting reports said that the Spurs didn't shoot a lot of 3's, and played hard and played the right way! But in the finals, the Spurs killed the Pistons with 3 pointers. This season, we defend the 3 and shoot the 3 very very well! And the Spurs CAN NOT BEAT THE PISTONS, just shooting two's! You are reduced to a three man team, and the Pistons play five strong!
And add this, you have NO CHEMISTRY with your backup guards. Van Exel and Findley are good players that basically only shoot the 3, but can't make the 3, and are easily bulled and shot over by the Piston guards. And when you have Findley, Van Exel, Horry, and Parker, who can't play defense, you look bad against the Pistons. Not playing Bowen down the stretch didn't help either! But tonight, you could've put Vince Young on Rip Hamilton, and it would not have made a difference!
SEE YOU IN JUNE!
DOMINATE, INTIMIDATE!
DETROIT BASKETBALL!
The Pistons have looked great in sweeping the Spurs this season, to say the least. That being said, however, the Spurs are obviously right there with the Pistons as the 2 best teams in the league. It would be a shame if these teams did not meet in the Finals again this year. Props to the Spurs for their consistent high level of play over the past few years, and also to the majority of you Spurs fans for being very classy. I love my Pistons and always hope they kick your butts, but I have nothing but respect for San Antonio. May the best team prevail at the end of the season.
Gotta love the piston fans. They say it how it is.
GOBLUEADAM's post is terrifyingly accurate.
Several first posts from new members I see. Some who make sense, some full of pre-All-Star game testosterone.
The Pistons took it to the Spurs tonight. Spurs are still finding their way and only 60% of their offense put in so far for the new players. The Pistons really wanted to win this game and they did in the 1st and 3rd quarters in grand fashion (Spurs actually outscored the Pistons in the 2nd and 4th). Arroyo was out but the Pistons starters played 85% of the minutes tonight. Three bench players played. They really wanted to win this game and the effort showed.
The Spurs had a more traditional minutes distribution for them at this stage of the season:
T. Parker G 35:26.........C. Billups G 41:08
M. Finley G 19:11.........R. Hamilton G 42:31
T. Duncan F 38:31........R. Wallace F 43:19
B. Bowen F 28:57..........T. Prince F 39:36
R. Nesterovic C 23:56....B. Wallace C 37:12
M. Ginobili 28:49..........C. Delfino G 6:52
R. Horry 22:59.............A. McDyess F 15:29
N. Van Exel 21:58........M. Evans G 14:11
B. Barry 07:46
N. Mohammed 05:41
F. Oberto 04:53
B. Udrih 01:53
Hopefully, the Spurs and Pistons will meet again in June. Don't expect the Spurs to easily give up the Larry O'Brien trophy.
Thanks for the congrats! If we're gonna change this league for the better, create Celtic vs Fakers in the 80's type series and drama, WE NEED EACH OTHER! I totally respect the Spurs and you great fans, what you stand for, PLAYING THE RIGHT WAY! I'm gonna pull for the Pistons just like you do for the Spurs, but I will always call it like I see it! But ladies and gents, not even I can call it right for the both of the Motor City Kittys, the Tigers and Lions!!
Go Lions and take the Tigers with you! Say, you guys want a football and baseball team?
See you in June!
Eh, the Pistons are good, but they sure have a lot of eggs in their basket.
It's a long season and a even longer post season.
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