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this team is tough they'll probably will fight through. the starters were lighting it up very early in the season and flip didn't want to put the bench in much because of that. when they cooled down a bit he used the bench more.
I know what you're saying, but the people who are going to matter for the Spurs are playing heavy minutes(except Manu, which seems to be his MO). Does it really matter if Rashazr is rested?
The talent thing was geared toward SA. If they had the talent at center, said center would play 33-37 minutes per...
That's what I mean about talent...
this team is tough they'll probably will fight through. the starters were lighting it up very early in the season and flip didn't want to put the bench in much because of that. when they cooled down a bit he used the bench more.
What killed us was:
Duncan going 7-17 and Manu going 4-13.
As well as player rotations.
Chauncey was off tonight, although he had 14 asissts, he only had 9 points and 6 Turnovers. Which leads me to think why wasn't Bruce on Rip for the game?(Rip 22 points on 48% shooting) Bruce could have had an effect and made Rip less effective.
Last edited by E20; 01-13-2006 at 07:18 PM.
Pop limited Bruce's minutes (25?) because neither Chauncey nor Rip were going off so he was running a lineup geared toward scoring (with TP and NVE on the floor) for long stretches.
Since when did Pop know anything about scoring?
They scored sixty something last night.
I am as disgusted as the rest of you.But remember how long it took us to accept Horry? We just plain stunk up the joint last night. :throwupsp
I am trying to be patient with my beloved Spurs and with Nick and Mike but it's hard after the mess I witnessed last night.
Oh well, Go Spurs Go!!!
All in all, I think that Finley and VanX have adapted pretty well in a very short period of time. They've only been playing with this team for 3 months and everyone is still getting used to each other. Last night was just bizarre.
You can say they do this and that, but the fact is that they were brought in help the spurs get the edge over the top teams in the league (psitons, pistons, pistons). Like many, they both didn't pack their balls.
I don't give a .... what they do, they just need to do more. If finley/vanx need a jumper to get them going, pop should run some sets for open shots for them. All finley did was jack up a contested jumper all night (fading away or getting the ball wating and then jacking up a shot). Vanx ran up the court in a critical possession on the fast break and just jacked up a three with no offensive rebounding (we would have got the rebound anyway, pathetic). I understand if Vanx is on fire or when the clock is running down but come on. That is white chocolate material.
Vanx and Fin. Do more and shut me up, please.
I liked that Three by Van Exel, and I will defend his actions on that play.
If he makes it we have 5x more people S'ing his D for that courageous play. At least he had some god damn balls.
That's all he's done all season.
I'm not implying that. Please read. I am simply stating a fact of the game.
No , I am simply stating a fact of this season.
He's not done. I don't give a what he does. He needs to and will make some shots. At least he's not being a pussy like a barry and passing up jumpers.
Where are you pulling this from??
All I said was that Finley has been taking forced, fade-aways all season.....that's it.
I misread it. I thought you said 'that's it. He's done for the season.' I read it too fast that's all.
Where are you pulling this from??
All I said was that Finley has been taking forced, fade-aways all season.....that's it.
taking forced, fade-aways all season
That explains it, you got me confused there....I misread it. I thought you said 'that's it. He's done for the season.' I read it too fast that's all.
Seems to me Van Excel is over wieght and Finley is playing too many mins? Maybe Pop thinks he can be harder on TD,Parker, and Manu because he has been there daddy for like 3-4 years. So he bosses them around like little punks and they except it with a smile ans say it is what is best for the team. Everybody is the world knows Manu off the bench is not best for the team.
I have a serious question... how do we know for sure that Finley won't be effective off the bench?
Here is my logic (and I use that word loosely):
Finley came off the bench the first few weeks of the season. I can't judge him, or anyone else really, during that time as they were shaking the dust off and playing with a new team and new system.
Manu goes down with an injury, so Finley starts. He seems to do well, at first. Then Manu came back. As Manu's minutes and confidence have increased, Finley's numbers have started to go down. (Coincedence? Not sure. I'll let some amateur psychologists take a stab at that one.)
Since, IMO, it's not fair to judge Finley on his play in the first 5-6 weeks of the season, how do we know that he won't be able to give us something off the bench?
One would think that either he or Barry would be able to give us something off the bench, right?Since, IMO, it's not fair to judge Finley on his play in the first 5-6 weeks of the season, how do we know that he won't be able to give us something off the bench?
We live in hope.
All I know is that Finley has not showed up to play in any game, more or less. The very first game against Denver, I felt like he wanted to show something. Since then, its been a long drop downhill. NVE has been doing good, he just needs to hit the shots that almost go in.
"NVE has been doing good, he just needs to hit the shots"
Nick has shot essentially 40% his whole career. ie, he's simply not a very good shooter.
Whether he's taking good or bad shots, or too early, or too few/many, he's still shooting 40% as a Spur. His best year was only 42%, 10 years ago.
One can't expect Nick to do anything more except what you've seen so far.
Michael and Brent, however, are shooting -5% vs their career avg.
Finley's game has not meshed well in SA. It's not really a matter of effort.
I think this deserves a thread of its own. I've noticed the drop off in TDs accuracy on his bank shots as well.
Still only january...will be concerned if they stilll can't figure out how to jump for them rebounds come MARCH....
Bull about rest. Back in the days when teams ran the ball up and down the court and regularly scored over 110 points, the starters usually averaged 35-40 minutes a game--and demanded those minutes.
, we used to get free hamburgers if the team went over 130 points. Bwahahahahahaha. Those days are gone.
Games nowadays, with the emphasis on defense, look like paint drying. Not bad basketball, but not very physically demanding either.
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