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only to Spurs and Pistons fans. i guarantee that most people would much rather see Mavs-Heat, especially because it has two big-time superstars in Wade and Dirk. most people would rather see Wade and Dirk go at it, as opposed to... well, no one.
A Spurs-Pistons Finals rematch would be great for basketball
only to Spurs and Pistons fans. i guarantee that most people would much rather see Mavs-Heat, especially because it has two big-time superstars in Wade and Dirk. most people would rather see Wade and Dirk go at it, as opposed to... well, no one.
HCA is something that the Spurs can overcome.
Its nice to have--but not necessary. All we need to do is develop the ability to beat Dallas in Dallas. Since we play better on the road, that is definitely within our range.
I noticed that you carefully selected your target year of 1980-81.Update after lasts years Heat over Mavs.
Now 16 of 22 Champs had HCA in finals, not thruout.
12 of the last 22 Champs did not have the leagues best reg season record.
In the entire history of the NBA, we have had a total of 60 NBA champions - and twenty-five of them had the unshared best record that season. Five additional champions were tied for the best record in the league that season: The 1955 Syracuse Nationals, the 1981 Boston Celtics, the 1998 Chicago Bulls, the 1999 San Antonio Spurs, and the 2003 San Antonio Spurs. In seventeen playoff series, these five teams had HCA for every series except for the 1998 Finals, or 94.1% of the time.
Of the thirty that did not have the best record, twenty-one of them had either the second or third best record that season. Those twenty-one teams held HCA 53 times out of 73 series played, or 72.6% of the time.
Now, combining the shared firsts with the seconds and the thirds makes 69 series with HCA out of 90 series played, or 76.7%.
And of course, EVERY series played by the twenty-five champions bearing the unshared best records came with homecourt advantage - 74 series in all.
When we add all series played by championship teams finishing in the top three in winning percentage - and again, that occurred fifty-one times in sixty NBA seasons - we have HCA for 143 series out of 164 series played, or 87.2%.
HCA may not be necessary, but since 51 of the NBA's sixty champions have held HCA 87.2% of the time, you must agree that it's highly useful.
EDIT:
Even including HCA for championship teams finishing 4th or worse (12 out of 32), the final HCA tally for all series played by championship teams is: 155 out of 196 - this percentage is 79.1%. HCA may not be technically necessary, but you're really behind the eight ball without it.
Last edited by SRJ; 02-27-2007 at 08:15 AM. Reason: new info
SRJModern era vs older era. Bird and Magic onward. So?I noticed that you carefully selected your target year of 1980-81.
SRJAgree. Thus i posted "Now 16 of 22 Champs had HCA in finals, not thruout."Even including HCA for championship teams finishing 4th or worse (12 out of 32), the final HCA tally for all series played by championship teams is: 155 out of 196 - this percentage is 79.1%. HCA may not be technically necessary, but you're really behind the eight ball without it.
That win % seems to line up with the all time stats you posted.
Which makes the Mavs choke last season is a rare HCA finals loss.
The threads le i really meant to put "Best Record in League is not neccessary for NBA le." Since the 2-3-2 format began in 1985, 10 of the last 22 Champs did not have the best reg season record.
Should the Mavs keep up their win percentage, history looks good.
Combined the top 8 All Time are 7-1 in Finals, 5-0 modern era. That bodes well for Dallas.
Chicago 1996 72-10
Chicago 1997 69-13
Lakers 1972 69-13
Sixers 1967 68-13
Celts 1973 68-14 No le.
Celts 1986 67-15
Chicago 1993 67-15
Lakers 2000 67-15
Last edited by Fabbs; 02-27-2007 at 12:46 PM.
I'm confused - isn't overall record the determinant of HCA? Right now, the Spurs are 39-18 and Detroit is 36-19, which means the Spurs would have HCA, I thought, against everyone except Dallas and Phoenix.
I think Detroit will come out of the East, the only real threat (unless Wade comes back for the playoffs) is Chicago, if they can get their together fast.
Detroit w/o HCA is a little scary. Dallas and Phoenix w/o HCA doesn't scare me, and Phoenix doesn't really scare me at all. SA has their number. Dallas scares me a little - but in a 7 game series, I'd still put money on the Spurs, because Dallas has proven nothing except their ability to choke in the big games.
We'll see.
If the playoffs were to start today, I predict this is how it would play out -
Dallas v. Clips or New Orleans - Dallas advances
Utah v. Houston - Utah advances
Dallas v. Utah - Dallas advances
Phoenix v. Denver - Phoenix advances but barely, in a grueling 7 games
SA v. LA - SA advances
Phoenix v. SA - SA advances
Dallas v. SA, SA wins in 6 or 7 games
In the East:
Detroit v. Miami - Detroit advances
Toronto v. Chicago - Chicago advances
Detroit v. Chicago - Man, this would be a tough match up, as good as Dallas v.s. SA in the semis last year. Should be the ECF, really. I'll go with Detroit.
Washington v. Orlando - Tough to call. Might have to go with Orlando pulling the upset, because I think in a 7 game series the better defense always wins.
Cleveland v. Indiana - Cleveland wins
Orlando v. Cleveland - Cleveland wins
Detroit v. Cleveland - Detroit wins
Rematch of the 2005 championships - Detroit v. SA. SA wins again, in 7 games.
Yes, but as the playoffs progress the top HCA often gets bumped off, like several since 2000 including last years Pistons and Spurs.
True also that the Western Finalist will have HCA over the Leastern Division no matter who comes out. (Okay barring a miracle.)
So when the Spurs win the West Conf playoffs this year we will have HCA vs the East finalist.
Altho Lord Sternfish has greatly taken away the Finals Home Court Adv with his silly 2-3-2 arrangement.
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