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OK but i'd love to see the stats for teams with HCA in the FINALS.
also Spurs not having to play detroit is neccessary for the NBA le
i know i should show some faith and I'm trying to.......actually I'll just worry about detroit when the time comes
Since 1980-81 season, 44% of the time the team with the best regular season record did not become the eventual Champion.
11 of 25 years.
9 of 21 if you just wanna count since 1985 2-3-2 formatt.
So much for us "having" to catch Detroit.
Last edited by Fabbs; 02-26-2007 at 06:23 PM.
OK but i'd love to see the stats for teams with HCA in the FINALS.
also Spurs not having to play detroit is neccessary for the NBA le
i know i should show some faith and I'm trying to.......actually I'll just worry about detroit when the time comes
Interesting stats Fabbs and good point about HCA among the finalists, Amused. I'd like to see that stat, also.
I have faith that the Spurs can win in Detroit in a game 7 of the Finals.
Just as long as it's not a back to back.
From 1985-2000 12 of 16 Champs had HCA,
I'm too tired to figure out the remaining years, altho i know the Spursies had it all three Champ years 99 03 05.
Detroit did not have HCA in their 2004 Champ.
Goodnight and goodmorning.
I'm not that concerned that the Pistons would have HCA in the finals. What I am concerned about is that the Pistons are REALLY good.
These posts crack me up
If we win, I think it will take a little lucky breaks at the most opportune moments.
We are bad on the road and the Pistons have thrashed us twice, sending a stern statement that the 1st thrashing was no fluke.
I wouldn't be so quick to count out Detroit at all. Infact, I would not be surprised at all if they won the finals.
And still really healthy. HCA is only a real edge in game 7's of the Finals, but honestly, I don't think it will come to a decisive game 7 like last year.
but arent refs are more bias for the home teams......
Or to say it another way, it is not the Pistons having HCA that is the problem. It is the Pistons being a superior team to the Spurs that could be a problem.
If Duncan could return to his 02-04 form then I think its anybody's series, and the Spurs would have a great chance to win with homecourt.
Considering Duncan isn't near 100% and the fact that this team doesn't matchup well with Detroit, and they do not have homecourt -- well that makes things look gloomy. Then there is always the question come playoff time -- will Tony Parker play to his maximum capabilities and with consistency? Will Duncan actually take command? Will Ginobili up his game in the playoffs like last season?
There is a lot of questions to be answered. Health aside I don't really feel the Pistons are any better than the Spurs but this is assuming prime Duncan comes back and Parker playing well in the playoffs.
Given the way the Spurs have played this season I am not sure even they beleive in themselves yet. There hasn't been many if any inspiring wins this season. At least last season they had a win over Detroit, won some tough OT games on the road without Duncan, and of course the Phoenix OT game with Duncan. Where are the inspiring wins this season? Where is the dominance from Tim Duncan? Can Ginobili stay healthy enough to play more productive minutes in the playoffs? Was his awesome performance in the 2005 playoffs a fluke? Is Parker finally ready to dominate consistently in the playoffs and be efficient?
So many questions for the Spurs. Less questions for Detroit. Right now Detroit is the better bet -- but if most of the questions are answered the Spurs really aren't any worse than the best of the Pistons. But you have to give props for the Pistons for their regular season dominance, their lack of injuries, and solid basketball on BOTH ends of the court. This is the most balanced effort from the Pistons in the past 3 years, and maybe EVER.
I just wish the Spurs had homecourt because you know if both teams play their best (should they even meet in the finals) -- it should be a close series. And I would rather have Game 6/7 at the AT&T Center. Right now I am not convinced the Spurs were be so lucky as to have all the cards fall in their favor, which is why I am a bit upset that the Spurs aren't really in the HCA race anymore.
spurs start sweeping people in the playoffs before they face the nets or I mean pistons
they will have confidence
I think nets have a chance against the pistons right now
Man i wish i could have found an all in one link.
I just did it year by year from this site:
http://www.nba.com/history/standings/20022003.html
For you Detroit Superiorists, recall last years Finals when Manu was very healthy and when he was not. Healthy Spurs will challenge for le.
Our best hope is the Heat beating Detroit for us. Don't hold your breath.
If the Pistons breeze through the East and win ECF in 4 or 5 games, I think they are going to be tough to beat.
If the Spurs breeze through the West though, and Pistons have another grueling ECF, like last year, that could change the entire prospective.
The Spurs have never won a Finals w/o HCA.
I don't think the not/breeze in the conf finals means anything.
The Pistons have played all year for Finals HCA.
It will be extremely difficult for the Spurs, if they get out of the West, to get a split in Games1,2 @Auburn Hills.
If the Spurs don't split Game1,2, Finals will be over, the Pistons win.
The Heat will not play the Pistons.
The Nets will beat the Heat, then beat the Pistons.
Homer here. I wouldnt make the mistake of looking past your games PRECEDING the Finals.
Pistons only "SURE FIRE" round is Round 1. They will waste the 8th seed, no matter what.
After that, its pretty damn tough.
I am used to hockey formats, so excuse me for a moment....am I correct in saying that the NBA does NOT re-seed after each round?
Meaning, the brackets the league comes up with in the opening is played identically to the NCAA tournament?
If so, I have to revise this post.
even better.
Well, it's a Spurs site after all.These posts crack me up
The lack of "inspiring" wins has a lot to do with expectations. The Spurs have won @ Dallas, @ Phoenix, @ NJ, and @ Miami. In other years, some of those wins might have been seen as mesuring sticks. However, this year the Spurs are the measuring stick, at least in the West.Given the way the Spurs have played this season I am not sure even they beleive in themselves yet. There hasn't been many if any inspiring wins this season. At least last season they had a win over Detroit, won some tough OT games on the road without Duncan, and of course the Phoenix OT game with Duncan. Where are the inspiring wins this season? Where is the dominance from Tim Duncan? Can Ginobili stay healthy enough to play more productive minutes in the playoffs? Was his awesome performance in the 2005 playoffs a fluke? Is Parker finally ready to dominate consistently in the playoffs and be efficient?
The NBA this year is analogous to the mid-1980's, when observers could pencil in the Finals participants in the preseason (Lakers v. Celtics). The Spurs and Pistons so clearly are the class of their respective conferences that there isn't a whole lot of drama. There's been no point this season where the Spurs staked their claim and established themselves as the team to beat, because that's been a given all along and nobody else in the West has offered a credible challenge.
So there's not much drama associated with getting through the West. If the Spurs lose, it will be either because of injuries, or because they let down against an inferior team.
But this apparent clear sailing doesn't lead to any sense of blue-sky euphoria, because the Pistons loom, and all season long there's been a lot of whistling past the graveyard about how Flip's coaching eventually will be their undoing, or they'll break down from the starters' playing too many minutes, or how Miami eventually will catch up to them, or whatever else. But here it is, April 7, and they're 61-14, and the Spurs already have conceded HCA. Detroit looks like a pretty tough nut to crack this year.
Anyway, for me those are the gut feelings that explain why a Spurs' regular season like no other doesn't leave me feeling on top of the world. There's still a big uphill battle looming.
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