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    Why so much complaining?

    Sacramento was taking it to the hoop in games 2 and 3. San Antonio was not. Simply look at the points in the paint those two games.
    Because I want to win every playoff game against obviously inferior compe ion. I hate losing to a crap team like ___ramento.

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    Because I want to win every playoff game against obviously inferior compe ion. I hate losing to a crap team like ___ramento.



    You complain about SAC getting more FTA's. I tell you it is because they drove to the hoop more. You don't acknowledge that and come back with this ? Next.

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    Tim Duncan operates in the paint. Manu Ginobili operates in the paint. ing Bibby is the jumpshooting queen of all time and he has more FTA than Duncan does in the series. That's ed up.

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    Tim Duncan operates in the paint. Manu Ginobili operates in the paint. ing Bibby is the jumpshooting queen of all time and he has more FTA than Duncan does in the series. That's ed up.
    Duncan hasn't been operating like he normally does. Ginobli is a flopper. Stop ing. You are up 2-1 in the series.

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    and memo to the league........when did traveling become legal.....lebron must have gotten a diferrent rule book when he joined the league
    Oh please. Manu and Parker both travel their fair share and are never whistled.

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    No Kings fan on this board were screaming about the moving screen. I simply brought it up to counter this so called goaltending. Both would have been ticky tack if called, and I'm glad they weren't called.
    On the kings forums they were

    but seriously im tired of the complaining about losing, just STFU and get over it

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    On the kings forums they were

    but seriously im tired of the complaining about losing, just STFU and get over it
    I know. I've been avoiding a certain board as of late.

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    Duncan hasn't been operating like he normally does. Ginobli is a flopper. Stop ing. You are up 2-1 in the series.
    Duncan operated pretty normally in game 3. Bibby still got more FTAs.

    Smells like a fish market.

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    Duncan operated pretty normally in game 3. Bibby still got more FTAs.

    Smells like a fish market.
    Did it ever occur to you that maybe Duncan wasn't fouled?

    Anyways, I will not have access to a computer on Sunday or Monday, got a college golf match to play in. Don't want people to think I disappeared if the Kings lose game 4.

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    if they wanted to extend a seires or let a home team win, or had an interest in letting a certain team win...........they would have called it...............they have done it before A LOT OF TIMES.

    Name a time they called interference on a player touching the net on a play that meant something in a playoff game.

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    Did it ever occur to you that maybe Duncan wasn't fouled?

    Anyways, I will not have access to a computer on Sunday or Monday, got a college golf match to play in. Don't want people to think I disappeared if the Kings lose game 4.
    Did it occur to you that maybe he was being fouled?

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    Flash....half the league travels and has for decades. ....even Jordan traveled. Its rarely called especially on stars and even less in the playoffs. The refs cannot call every single infraction that happens in an NBA game...they would go on for 4 hours.

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    Did it ever occur to you that maybe Duncan wasn't fouled?

    Anyways, I will not have access to a computer on Sunday or Monday, got a college golf match to play in. Don't want people to think I disappeared if the Kings lose game 4.
    IF !???

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    Ok, all of you basically say that I should get over it, blah blah blah. Let me ask you this, flash back to game five Western Conference second round, Spurs vs. Lakers, 2004. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE in this forum said "get over it". Actually, if I remember correctly, Pop even pen ioned the call for some BS reason. Granted, the series was tied 2-2 and the teams were much more even than SA and SAC today, but still, no coach, or fan for that matter should ever back down from such an obvious error. Will ing Stern do something about this? NO. But at least the refs will publicly be humiliated. By the way, if you touch the net its goaltending, anyone can argue that it altered the shot, and yes, its in the rulebook, I checked.
    Believe me, if Sacto wins the series (odds of about 1 to 1 million), all of you "get over it" people are gonna be crying your ing pussies off about that noncall.

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    and yes, its in the rulebook, I checked.
    Here's the entire entry on goaltending. If you can find the word "NET" in there, let alone anything that applies you win the -flavored cookie.

    Section I-A Player Shall Not:
    a. Touch the ball or the basket ring when the ball is using the basket ring as its lower base.
    EXCEPTION: If a player near his own basket has his hand legally in contact with the ball, it is not a violation if his contact with the ball continues after the ball enters the cylinder, or if, in such action, he touches the basket.
    b. Touch the ball when it is above the basket ring and within the imaginary cylinder.
    c. For goaltending to occur, the ball, in the judgment of the official, must have a chance to score.
    d. During a field goal attempt, touch a ball after it has touched any part of the backboard above ring level, whether the ball is considered on its upward or downward flight.
    e. During a field goal attempt, touch a ball after it has touched the backboard below the ring level and while the ball is on its upward flight.
    f. Trap the ball against the face of the backboard. (To be a trapped ball, three elements must exist simultaneously. The hand, the ball and the backboard must all occur at the same time. A batted ball against the backboard is not a trapped ball.)
    g. Touch any live ball from within the playing area that is on its downward flight with an opportunity to touch the basket ring. This is considered to be a "field goal attempt" or trying for a goal.
    h. Touch the ball at any time with a hand which is through the basket ring.
    i. Vibrate the rim or backboard so as to cause the ball to make an unnatural bounce.
    PENALTY: If the violation is at the opponent's basket, the offended team is awarded two points, if the attempt is from the two point zone and three points if it is from the three point zone. The crediting of the score and subsequent procedure is the same as if the awarded score has resulted from the ball having gone through the basket, except that the official shall hand the ball to a player of the team en led to the throw-in. If the violation is at a team's own basket, no points can be scored and the ball is awarded to the offended team at the free throw line extended on either sideline. If there is a violation by both teams, play shall be resumed by a jump ball between any two opponents at the center circle.

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    If there is any ing, it shouldn't be that Bibby tugged on the net, it should be that he smacked the out of Manu on his way to the basket.

    Whatever. It still took a lucky ass bounce, and a lucky ass shot over Tim "6 Blocks" Duncan.

    This series was over when Duncan decided the Spurs were his team again.

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    Actually you piece of , you happened to accidentally miss one...... How sad.. See rule No. i
    RULE NO. 11
    BASKET INTERFERENCE—
    GOALTENDING
    Section I—A Player Shall Not:
    a. Touch the ball or the basket ring
    when the ball is using the basket ring as
    its lower base or hang on the rim while
    the ball is passing through.
    EXCEPTION: If a player near his own
    basket has his hand legally in contact
    with the ball, it is not a violation if his
    contact with the ball continues after the
    ball enters the cylinder, or if, in such
    action, he touches the basket.
    b. Touch the ball when it is above the
    basket ring and within the imaginary
    cylinder.
    c. During a field goal attempt, touch a
    ball after it has touched any part of the
    backboard above ring level, whether the
    ball is considered on its upward or
    downward flight.
    d. During a field goal attempt, touch a
    ball after it has touched the backboard
    below the ring level and while the ball is
    on its upward flight.
    e. Trap the ball against the face of the
    backboard after it has been released.
    (To be a trapped ball, three elements
    must exist simultaneously.The hand, the
    ball and the backboard must all occur at
    the same time.A batted ball against the
    backboard is not a trapped ball.)
    f. Touch any live ball from within the
    playing area that is on its downward
    flight with an opportunity to score.This
    is considered to be a “field goal
    attempt” or trying for a goal.
    g. Touch the ball at any time with a
    hand which is through the basket ring.
    h.Vibrate the rim, net or backboard so
    as to cause the ball to make an
    unnatural bounce.
    i. Touch the rim, net or ball while the
    ball is in the net preventing it from
    clearing the basket.
    PENALTY: If the violation is at the
    opponent’s basket, the offended team is
    awarded two points, if the attempt is
    from the two point zone and three
    points if it is from the three point zone.
    The crediting of the score and subsequent
    procedure is the same as if the
    awarded score has resulted from the
    ball having gone through the basket,
    except that the official shall hand the
    ball to a player of the team en led to
    the throw-in. If the violation is at a
    team’s own basket, no points can be
    scored and the ball is awarded to the
    offended team at the free throw line
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    extended on either sideline. If there is a
    violation by both teams, play shall be
    resumed by a jump ball between any
    two opponents at the center circle.
    toward the hoop for the official to
    discontinue his three second count. If he
    attempts to back the defensive player
    down, attempting to secure a better
    position in relation to the basket,
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    offensive three seconds or an offensive
    foul must be called. If he passes off and
    immediately makes a move out of the
    lane, there should be no whistle.

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    Another dumbass who thinks all fouls are equal. The number you should be looking at is FTA: 33 Sacto 22 SA. There were at least two CLEAR cases of continuation for Duncan in the 4th where he was making his move and never put the ball down after the whistle, and that dumb Salvatore called on the floor fouls. The disparity in regulation in game 2 (+8 ___ramento) was almost as large, evening out in OT. Copngratulations, ___ramento: if you get a double digit or near double digit disparity at the FT line, you can hang. Good job.
    Neither # of fouls nor # of FT's tells the story as far as the officials favoring either team (or appearing to favor either team). But # of FT's is MUCH more relevant than # of FT's. There's too many variables involved in getting from # of fouls to # of FT's...

    What if one team is driving to the basket more?
    What if one team is smarter about spreading their fouls out over 4 quarters and staying out of the bonus as much as possible?
    What if one team is ahead at the end and gets multiple FT attempts during the last minute of the game?

    Example (exaggerated)
    Team A commits 16 fouls, all non-shooting fouls, 4 per quarter. Team B gets ZERO FT's.
    Team B commits 10 fouls, all shooting fouls. Team A gets 20 FT's.

    Looking at the box score YOU would think that Team B got jobbed by the officials, right??

    Game 4:
    Kings - called for 25 PF's
    Spurs - called for 21 PF's
    Both got 27 FT's, but the Spurs made 3 less.

    Surely Spurs fans won't whine about officiating in this game too???

    Good luck against ___ramento in Game 5!!

    Sincerely,
    "dumbass"
    Last edited by LEONARD; 05-01-2006 at 08:43 AM.

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    I'm back. And my team won the Southern California Regionals.

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