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hmm how long of a project? iam guessing if he will take a year or two then we might as well just stick with Ian mahimni.Minimum. He's still a raw young player.
I guess if we did the original deal of Barry for Smith/Macijauskas, the worst we could end up with would be two players we never play rather than one. Same years.
hmm how long of a project? iam guessing if he will take a year or two then we might as well just stick with Ian mahimni.Minimum. He's still a raw young player.
As Noel's world turns.........
See how the NBA world is? JR Smith was the topic of discussion but now a new flavor of the month is being talked about and that's Felix.....
Next thing you know we'll be talking abou bringing back the Worm at age 43!! lol
I strongly believe hes stayin in PHX too. But having him as SA's starting 4 would be awesome. Hes versatle too. If they need to go big he can play the 3 too. Plus he can NAIL the three ball!!!
Dayum not an OLD ASS PICTURE OF FINLEY IN BADGER GEAR!!
Now that's classic Dre!! lol
With playing time, a year. He'll never be a star, but I think he'll be a solid role player. I pimp him because he's one of my closest friends.
Mahinmi is a center/PF. Noel is a SF/PF. Noel's been a power forward/center his whole life and only really a defender. But the Sonics are converting him to play both forward positions. They think he can guard 3's and 4's and love his defense, but they are working on extending his shooting range, etc.
What about CHA FA Jumaine Jones? He's a little smaller than Thomas but CHA played him at PF a lot, and CLE played him there a bit when they had him. He might be even more athletic than Thomas and he can shoot the 3 equally well. After years of being stuck on mediocre teams, ie. BOS, CHA, LAL, CLE, etc. I'd bet he'd kill to be on an elite one.
A lot of people were talking about Jumaine Jones in this other thread.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...=jumaine+jones
and this one
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...=jumaine+jones
He might fit the bill. I would think the Spurs will look at him.
I think Jumaine is on most wish lists out there. I'm not sure exactly how much PT he'd get here if we don't fully convert to small ball.
Jones' playing time might coincide as to WHICH big (Rasho/Nazr) is NOT here next season and whether Scola comes over.
Chump (or whoever) what teams will be likely under the cap?
Charlotte, NO, Chicago, Atlanta, Utah, Toronto, Clippers ...
Is that it?
Whoops, working with the wrong figures.
Your list looks right.
kori, noel seems like a mold of bruce bowen, a defensive specialist with limited offense. i wonder if he can end up being bruces replacement.
Well he's much bigger than Bowen. He's 6'9, 240-250. (He was 250 in training camp). He jumped center in the CBA this season. (He won CBA Defensive Player of the Year). In high school, he was a shot blocker and dunker only -- never taught much about real basketball. He averaged 5 blocks a game. He can jump out of the gym. At Fresno St, he was a team leader and great defender .. not a scorer at all (averaged like 8-9 ppg). He just was trying to get thru college .. it was a tumultuous time there -- teammates killing people, getting arrested, smoking dope, NCAA violations. Noel is a good boy though .. he steered clear of all that. But he didn't really start coming into his own as a basketball player til late. This past season he developed a pretty good offensive game and I've been getting him to practice his NBA 3's a lot. I never think of him as a small forward. I think he'd make a solid backup PF in the NBA. But since the league seems to be morphing into something different. He could probably play both spots.
This trade is a PERFECT example of buy LOW, sell HIGH, from both perspectives for San Antonio. Barry may never again have the trade value that he has after blowing up down the stretch. I expect him to go moribund at the start of next season. Smith's value may never be lower after clashing with Byron Scott. If he were getting along, dunking like a mofo, and generally excelling, the Spurs would never get a whiff of this trade. This is strictly a trade for potential, and "old lamps for new". If Smith is a bust, you don't lose much.
There is always a risk associated with young guys like J. R. Smith. Just like older veterans get shot after shot, he deserves a shot at plalying on a contender. Evaluate him and see how everything goes; but basketball wise, the guy is everything that the Spurs currently have at 6'6" are not.
Spurs are not above getting a guy like Smith if they took Van Exel, Big Dog, and Rodman on; Also, J. R. Smith is still young and can be shown by example by a team ladened with true professionals with character to boot. I would not worry so much in that regard.
He is not the long 3; but he is the young/athletic/energetic 2 that can sometimes moonlight as a 3 when catchups permit. The long 3 won't be able to guard athletic 2's anyway.
i like brent barry. i think we should keep him
As exstatic pointed out, the Barry for Macijauskas/Smith deal is the kind of deal that the Spurs have capitalized on in the past. Buy low/sell high
Anyone familiar with the concept of flipping a house? A prospective Smith trade could be the same thing. You bring him in, spiff up his reputation and game a bit, and teams remember his talent, and forget the other , once he's shown he can play in Pop's system. Maybe next summer they're knocking on OUR door with long 3 candidates for Smith.
Very familiar with flipping a house but there are drawbacks to how you are looking at it. First of all Smith would have to be wanting to spiff up his own reputation and game and look for a potential suitor. However sometimes 'flipping' is not a good idea when the market has been already saturated or is on the downside.
If the Spurs really wante to get their monies worth, they might do better 'renovating' and upgrading Smith. Meaning, take the time and put the effort into not only spiffing him up but also getting his game to be more conducive to how the Spurs play. I've done that on houses and in the long term, gotten more monetary value out of them by thus making them rent homes.
In relation to Smith in Ex's example of flipping in real estate, if the Spurs did actually want him, it would have to be on a long term basis because the market could become saturated. He's an interesting player but I think RC and Sam Presti would have to look at ALL aspects of whether he would be a good fit either on the long or short term.
We needs Gerald Wallace.
Oh gawd no!!!!!!
I've seen him before...both on and off the court. Talking about a head case!!!!
Smith has more upside than this guy.
Yeah, we could use AK47 too. But there's a snowball's chance in of either happening.We needs Gerald Wallace.
We need a reality check filter around here for people who think we can go out and grab any player off another team because we think he'd fit.
if anyone hasn't seen this post, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42405, check it out.
That's what's available as free agents. If the Spurs are decent at doing anything, it's going out in free agency and getting players that SHOULD fit in their system. Not saying that it always works but that's the premise.
Oh and again, Gerald Wallace???? flipping naw!!!
Or he could be Isaiah Rider III.
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