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    OK, for those who have taken logic, please analyze this argument and tell me where it's flawed.

    NOTE: Assume the premises are correct, I know the the Suns are not proven to be better than the Mavs, we're just playing "what if" here.

    Premise 1: Suns > Mavs
    Premise 2: Mavs > Spurs

    Conclusion: Suns > Spurs

    Correction, Suns > small ball Spurs

    Real Spurs > Suns (Spurs won 3 or 4 this year.)

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    and your agenda is 2-fold...

    Blaming officiating for the Spurs loss to the Mavs
    Ripping Dirk

    Which are both incredibly lame...
    Funny thing is thats what the whole Mavs organization is about! Blaming the officiating!

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    That's frickin obvious that spurs are worse then the Suns. Suns are playing in the WCF Spurs are not.

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    That's frickin obvious that spurs are worse then the Suns. Suns are playing in the WCF Spurs are not.

    Uhh, that has more to do with the ed up seeding system than anything else, which Stern ADMITS was screwed up.

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    Saying "Suns > Spurs" or "If the Spurs were playing...they would've beaten Suns" are really moot points. This happens in every sport -- it's all about matchups. A team that lost in a previous round could've beaten the team their opponents go on to face, even if the team that elimnatd them loses. It's even possible that a team that didn't even make the playofffs may have won their conference with the right match-up.

    Look at the Edmonton Oilers (NHL), they were in a dogfight for the 8th seed until the very last regular season game. Imagine if they had lost their playoff spot!

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    Define "they got their asses beat".
    Diop is playing, and solely for defensive purposes, against the Suns. You think Duncan can't but Diop can?

    Kaman is no Duncan although he did manage to shoot .660 but only took 53 shots. That's probably about what Dunan would put up in two game. Who is going to guard Duncan, particualry after a very rusty Kurt Thomas fouls out?

    The Spurs do what they need to do. With no interior defense Manu and Parker would be penetrating like crazy and Duncan would be eating up the low post. They wouldn't be shooting a lot of threes just like they didn't last year against the Suns.

    Your analysis still sucks but you are trying.
    My analysis sucks? My analysis of your imaginary series? Imagine that, Homer doesn't like my analysis. The only way you would like my analysis is if I said that the Spurs were the best team in the West, which in a round about way is the point that you are trying to make.

    Well, I hate to disappiont you but the Spurs aren't the best in the West, or even the second best. They might however be the 3rd best, maybe not though, I'm not sure if they could beat the Clippers. Maybe that is what this thread should be about, whose the 3rd best team in the west? The Clippers or the Spurs?

    Define "got their asses beat?" Seriously? I thought it was pretty self explanitory. They lost, or got beat, or their season is over, or their season ended with a loss, or some might say they underachieved, or others might say they choked. I don't know, there is a bunch of ways to say it.

    BTW Kaman is no Duncan? Did I say he was? Brand might be just about as good as Duncan though, at least he was this season. The Clippers had a better all around post game with the combination or Brand and Kaman and they still couldn't beat the Suns, since that is the huge weakness that your Spurs would exploit.

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    Brand didn't post up nearly as much as Kaman or ddn't you watch the series?
    Clips would have given the Spurs a better run of it than the Suns?

    Here's one for you dumb . If the Suns come out of the West they will lose to the Heat. If the Mavs come out of the West they have a decent shot of beating the Heat. But according to a simpleton's A>B and B>C therefore A>C analysis therefore if the Suns beat the Mavs there is no way the Mavs could beat the Heat.

    Nice to see the mentally challenged can learn some rudimentary algebra.

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    Brand didn't post up nearly as much as Kaman or ddn't you watch the series?
    Clips would have given the Spurs a better run of it than the Suns?

    Here's one for you dumb . If the Suns come out of the West they will lose to the Heat. If the Mavs come out of the West they have a decent shot of beating the Heat. But according to a simpleton's A>B and B>C therefore A>C analysis therefore if the Suns beat the Mavs there is no way the Mavs could beat the Heat.

    Nice to see the mentally challenged can learn some rudimentary algebra.
    So since Brand didn't post up that much against the Suns, what was your point? He plays the same position as Duncan, right? His style of play is closest to Duncan's, right?

    You're a moron if you think it is a forgone conclusion that the Suns would lose to the Heat. You probably thought that it was a forgone conclusion that the Spurs would beat the Mavs, and that the Pistons would beat the Heat, but that is why they actually play the games dip .

    All I see coming out of you is a lot of bold assumptions, that may or may not be true, frankly there is no way of finding out. That was my point, this is a pointless arguement, it is imaginary, so the only thing you can do is give credit to the Suns for making the WCF and being one of the top two teams in the West. Now if you want to debate about who is better between the Clippers and the Spurs, knock yourself out, that makes more sense since they both got knocked out in the same round.

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    Want to lay a little money on a Heat - Suns series chump?

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    Want to lay a little money on a Heat - Suns series chump?
    Do you actually read what I post? Or do you have some ed up re ed interpreter reading for you? Did I say that the Suns would beat the Heat? No, I just said I think you are an idiot for making the assumption that the Heat will beat them, no questions asked. I think that the Suns would have a great chance of making it an interesting series, since Shaq would be lost on defense and would struggle to make it up and down the court. I can't think of any team in the league that would cause bigger matchup problems for the Heat than the Suns.

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    Okay, I'll give you odds chump. $4 gets you $5. Since you think the Mavs can't cause the Heat as much problems as the Sun I'll tak $4 gets me $5 for that matchup. $2000 do you?

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    Okay, I'll give you odds chump. $4 gets you $5. Since you think the Mavs can't cause the Heat as much problems as the Sun I'll tak $4 gets me $5 for that matchup. $2000 do you?
    You got it tough guy.

    BTW, I just owned your ass in this thread!!!!!!!!!! How does it feel? Seriously, there was nothing you could do about it after you chose to take that ridiculous side of the arguement. Did you just start watching basketball in the '03 playoffs or something?

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    Owned my ass? Riggghtt. So how about cashier's checks? Kori can hold them. I figure Dallas - Heat is a toss up and Heat - Suns is a gimme so the bet is now as ling as the Heat are in regardless of who wins in the West. You in chump?

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    Owned my ass? Riggghtt. So how about cashier's checks? Kori can hold them. I figure Dallas - Heat is a toss up and Heat - Suns is a gimme so the bet is now as ling as the Heat are in regardless of who wins in the West. You in chump?
    Yeah I'll take the Suns you dumb , as long as you give me the Heat if the Mavs make the finals. How about that?

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    You got it.

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    Uh Oh! This sounds pretty official! You're made to look and idiot, so you resort to trying to negotiated some bull wager to save face!!!!!!! Classic!!! Now you look like a bigger idiot. How about you just don't pick such a stupid arguement next time.

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    You backing out?

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    Backing out??? Were you really stupid enough to think I was ever in? Jesus, you're getting desperate.

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    No, I thought you were in. Guess I should have known you're all bull though, right?

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    No, I thought you were in. Guess I should have known you're all bull though, right?
    I'm all bull because I'm not a re ? 1) if I was a betting man I would lay my bet through an online book where I know 100% that I'm going to get paid, 2) I could get better odds through and online book 3) there are any number of injuries that could happen in the more than likely 3 games remaining between the Suns and Mavs 4) did you really think I was going to bet $2000 with you because I believe that the Suns have a chance to make it an interesting series? Seriously, do you always try and save face when you lose an arguement by trying to act like the other person is wrong if he doesn't bet you $2K on something he never even said? I never said the Suns would win, so why would I want to be $2K on it? To win a pissing match with you? Get a in' life loser.

    Hey I got an idea, let's bet $2K on who is better, the Suns or the Spurs!!!! I win, pay up !!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!111111

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    You're a waste of time. Adios mutha a.

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    You're a waste of time. Adios mutha a.

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    Bakrid, you are an imbecile, you can't conclude Suns > Spurs based on the WCF because the SEEDING SYSTEM WAS ED UP

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    I'm all bull because I'm not a re ? 1) if I was a betting man I would lay my bet through an online book where I know 100% that I'm going to get paid, 2) I could get better odds through and online book 3) there are any number of injuries that could happen in the more than likely 3 games remaining between the Suns and Mavs 4) did you really think I was going to bet $2000 with you because I believe that the Suns have a chance to make it an interesting series? Seriously, do you always try and save face when you lose an arguement by trying to act like the other person is wrong if he doesn't bet you $2K on something he never even said? I never said the Suns would win, so why would I want to be $2K on it? To win a pissing match with you? Get a in' life loser.

    Hey I got an idea, let's bet $2K on who is better, the Suns or the Spurs!!!! I win, pay up !!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!111111

    AHAHAH YOU GOT OWNED FOOL
    Can't put your money where your mouth is

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    AHAHAH YOU GOT OWNED FOOL
    Can't put your money where your mouth is
    You don't know how to read either, huh? You and picnroll can't be from the same village, if you are that is a waste of a fine village idiot.

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