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Some other team can come and offer a contract still.
Butler kinda looks like a potential Corliss Williamson -- a talented chubby guy.
The Spurs reputation for being asute on personnel matter may hurt them here. Isaih may fear the scorn of the New York media if Butler goes to the Spurs and blossoms. That could be the final nail in his coffin, you know, the media screaming that "now the mighty Knicks are getting snookered by a bunch of hillbillies from a little town in Texas." Isaih probably would do anything to avoid that happening.
Anyway, I think Javtokas is still a pretty good back-up plan (if needed).
Some other team can come and offer a contract still.
Not if he's signed the offer sheet.
This is definitely a long shot. However, it was a good move because adding Butler would be huge for this team. Young centers who show potential are almost impossible to get.
If nothing more, it's a good attempt.
Now we just need a miracle.
they can but the player cannot accept unless the offer sheet is rescinded.
Not once Butler signs the Spurs' offer sheet.
I wonder if the Spurs have a creative "poison pill" in the deal to discourage the Knicks from matching. If so, what could it be?
Is this a ploy to force the Knicks to cut someone when they match for Butler and then sign them? Does the player get placed on waivers or cut outright?
I was thinking about that but I'm not sure what it could be. Perhaps something like if he doesn't start a certain percentage of games, it kicks in 4th and 5th years of the contract.
I didnt think he signed a offer sheet it just said extended offer, but after reading it, I was wrong.
Would it have done any good by making an attempt to sign both Q Woods and Butler to offer sheets for a 50/50 split of the MLE and hope the Knicks only decide to match one? Either way i can't get excited about what appears to be the spurs reaching to plan F. If we get Butler, better than nothing.
Woods is unrestricted. They wouldn't need to give him an offer sheet ... just sign him.
God I hope the Knicks don't.
Ever since the list of FA bigs was posted a couple of weeks ago, I've always thought there was a ton of upside to Butler.
Hopefully Isiah keeps his head up his ass for another seven days.
They were actually showing a story about him on the news, his coach actually lives here.
I was thinking perhaps the Spurs could give the Knicks a second round pick so they'd STFU but that can't happen.
Just have to pray for a miracle.
Maybe Pop told Isiah that if they matched that he would do to Isiah's career in the NBA what he did to Bob Hill's.
That should be enough
that's a dumb rule that i was not aware of. if you are allowed to trade the rights of unsigned draft picks, why can't you trade the rights of a restricted free agent?
He won't match.... That cat is under a smoking gun! It wouldn't suprise me if all the knick did were trades from here on out. By the way, is Elson really that bad? I thought he filled in nicely for camby?!?!
The only right you have with a restricted free agent is the right to match an offer. They don't have the only right to sign him like a draft pick. It is a totally different situation.
he did according to nugget fans, i think ppl are just worried that he's gonna be our only starter, that's why ppl are probably down on him. well at least that's why i'm down on elson, unless butler comes
I feel the same way. If Elson is a cheap bench player, that's okay -- I just don't want him starting.
You just don't like him cuz he's from Cal.
No, I didn't even think about that
Does anyone have any REAL info about this butler guy besides the fact that he's almost as young as Alvarez
Isiah's doing a fine job of that on his own.Maybe Pop told Isiah that if they matched that he would do to Isiah's career in the NBA what he did to Bob Hill's.
That should be enough
i understand that it is a slightly different situation. but it's not unheard of, the NFL allows compensation for the signings of restricted players. The Redskins have done a lot of it over the past 4 years or so.
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