Beno's minutes: Will he get his shot this year?

[gospursgojas]

Please....

Guys, give up on Beno already, like the rest of us have.

[BERSERK]

Dear sir!

Beno is with the Spurs for two (2) seasons, how you were able to evaluate his game with Spurs for three (3) years is beyond me. Oh, wait I know, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
In the first season he was outstanding rookie, and last year he was benched for NVE.

And who is that Poppovich guy?

Think of that for a moment. NVE got more playing time than Beno. NVE had a bad elbow, was out of shape, and had a bad shot selection. Pop chose NVE over Beno despite all the bad characteristics of NVE. If that's not telling you that Beno sucks, I don't know what will.

[wildbill2u]

I always thought some of his strengths were court sense and passing. It's amazed me that he can't pass out of the trap press. Of course, you have to have some teammates who come back and get open.

[angel_luv]

Please....

Guys, give up on Beno already, like the rest of us have.

Never.

Beno rocks!

[ducks]

Never.

Beno rocks!

rocks what

[withcheese]

I didn't say Beno should be playing the playoffs

Others have in this thread. That was for everyone.

im not saying that he should have played in just the playoffs...im saying he should have been number 2 off the bench for the entire season. when youre at the end of the regular season and not let him play into the rotation all year, i agree that that is absolutely NOT the time to start giving him heavy burn. i think that pop should have done the ENTIRE SEASON differently from the pg position.

about conditioning, i dont know how much of a factor this was in pop's decision. i dont know how much of a factor this is in reality. i think maybe getting on the court and running your ass up and down for 13 minutes a night would get you in pretty good shape, especially when your only 23, but who knows.

about houston...jesus guys, your placing too much value on one performance in one game under difficult cir stances. why dont you want to bench ginobili after he ed up and basically cost the spurs a le? that was a thousand times worse than some bull game against a lottery team, so why doesnt he deserve to be benched? the answer is this: you know, we ALL know, he is better than that. Well, I think the same is true with Beno...you look at his rookie year, and we know that he's better than a up against that cost the spurs what turned out to be a meaningless game. its not fair to classify him as a player based on a small amount of errors when there is a much larger body of positives to balance those out...just like with manu

and bruno, , i dont know what i was thinking about malik. i really thought he was a no show in that season before he got traded, but the numbers belie my contentions. i still think malik was in the doghouse and his numbers are artificially inflated because of duncan's early december ankle injury and big minutes against ty teams (orlando 12/15, orlando 12/22, portland 1/24, washington 2/9, new orleans 2/16), but comparing him to what is happening to beno is wrong. i still think beno is getting ed wasting away on the bench in favor of ty veterans, but your right, pop is being MUCH worse to beno than he was to malik

[withcheese]

also about this Houston game that everyone is using to dog on beno:

yes beno travelled there near the end of that game, a costly turnover at the time. and yes, that foul on alston or whoever it was was a bad play. but , the guy hit like 5 of 6 free throws in the last half of the fourth, and that pass that got picked off near the end wasn't his fault, it was the inbounders (oberto? horry?). i mean, he almost coughed up that game, but part of the reason why they were in it was because of him making his FTs and finding his teammates.

i think pop was being too hard on him because he got trapped on a press. that's not all the pgs fault anyway, as anyone who has played organized ball will tell you....if you don't get support from your teammates when you get trapped, more often than not you'll cough up the ball. i dont have a photographic memory so i cant tell you if it was all of beno or not, but i think some people (cough cough kori cough) might be too quick to label beno a ty pg against the press when in reality, he just isn't some parker or speedy who can beat a press on their quickness alone.

[angel_luv]

rocks what

My basketball world

[ducks]

oh

[sendman]

My basketball world

He,he,he! My homies are covered. They have their guardian Angel_luv!

[angel_luv]

He,he,he! My homies are covered. They have their guardian Angel_luv!

Angel patrol.

[BeerIsGood!]

I seriously do not think that Pop wanted to play NVE in the playoffs last year. He wanted to keep NVE on the bench, but he had:

1) A starting All-Star PG with bad wheels
2) The other PG was somewhat out of shape and never showed he could run the offense efficiently without turning the ball over.

Beno had his chance, and luckily for him he has another one this year. What will he do with it??

[withcheese]

I seriously do not think that Pop wanted to play NVE in the playoffs last year. He wanted to keep NVE on the bench, but he had:

1) A starting All-Star PG with bad wheels
2) The other PG was somewhat out of shape and never showed he could run the offense efficiently without turning the ball over.

Beno had his chance, and luckily for him he has another one this year. What will he do with it??

thats not true...he showed he could run the offense pretty well his entire rookie season, with the one exception being the nba finals against the best defensive team in the world other than the spurs.

regardless of whether or not pop wanted to, he was stuck with van exel come playoff time because he had a consistent rotation involving nve and not beno that he had been using for the entire season...

now i know pop did end up deciding to do something in the playoffs against dallas that the team wasnt accustomed to, a small ball strategy that they had only used occasionaly during the regular season. but aside from that move, which everyone agrees was completely uncharacteristic of pop, he doesnt seem like the guy to throw a wrench into the mix right at the end of the season going in to the playoffs

its not like beno and nve had been competing for minutes all year and the end of the regular season was just an audition of sorts used to see who he was going to stick with in the playoffs...pop chose nve early on in the year and stuck with him through thick and thin (but may more thick than thin). even if pop realized the error in even letting nve step foot off the bench, it was too late to change.

but whatever, beno isnt really all that great anyway, i just think hes got good potential, whereas nve (especially) and jacque vaughn (not as much) have limited potential. beno will never realize his potential though if pop doesnt give him pt

its like with tony...even though he railed on him hard when hed up as a rookie (which was all the time), he was forced to stick with tony as a starter because he knew a.d. was not a serviceable starting point guard. pop should do the same with beno, but in the backup context...he shouldnt just fall back on the veteran backup because beno isnt living up to whatever unrealistic expectation pop has, he should force himself to stick with beno for a while. he had to do that with tony, and it paid off. it might pay off with beno too

[BeerIsGood!]

I guarantee you Beno's inability to run the offense in garbage time didn't lead much confidence in going with him during the playoffs. He shouldn't be given time... he should earn it by busting his ass 24-7 to get better and stay in tip top shape. That means no more excessive partying, etc...

Pop stayed with Tony because Tony busted his ass the entire time and showed that he really wanted it. If Beno busts his ass this offseason and during camp and the season he'll get more playing time. He has to earn it.

[withcheese]

I guarantee you Beno's inability to run the offense in garbage time didn't lead much confidence in going with him during the playoffs. He shouldn't be given time... he should earn it by busting his ass 24-7 to get better and stay in tip top shape. That means no more excessive partying, etc...

Pop stayed with Tony because Tony busted his ass the entire time and showed that he really wanted it. If Beno busts his ass this offseason and during camp and the season he'll get more playing time. He has to earn it.

i agree with all of that except the first line...inability to run the offense during garbage time? what are you talking about? he played well against houston except for one or two bone headed plays near the end. he had 5/6 fts and an assist and a hockey assist. THAT DOESNT TRANSLATE INTO COMPLETE INEP UDE ON ALL LEVELS AGAINST EVERY TEAM. what it shows is that he sometimes makes mistakes when it matters. but EVERYONE on that team makes GIGANTIC mistakes sometimes.

all of us will forgive boneheadness on huge, season-ending plays from manu, but we wont forgive it on a foul and a turnover (that probably wasnt entirely his fault) in a meaningless game? what the is that?

[Kibic]

It's just ... kids. I hope for him to get into a solid team. Out off Pop and Spurs.