Beno's minutes: Will he get his shot this year?

[wildbill2u]

Let's talk about Beno's place in the rotation. Some folks like his potential and others (including POP maybe?) only seem to remember his problems facing the Detroit full-court press two years ago.

I hear rumors about his work ethic (weight problem?). Maybe Kori can fill us in about that.

This has to be his make or break year with the Spurs. Will he get enough minutes in the rotation to be a reliable and effective subs ute or will the Spurs look to Vaughn or a trade?

[TDMVPDPOY]

only team he has problem against are teams that actually play defence, which is only the pistons only. He seems to do very well against other teams, and he was superb durin his rookie season, he outperformed brent barry. i dunno what else can you ask more of him.

last season with nve was stupid, we didnt even really need him to teach beno anything, the person he needed to teach was brent barry, scared of takin shots for sum reason.

i still want beno to take his head out his ass, shed a few kilos and get back into the rotation. what we dont need is parker increasing his minutes or barry stealin benos time.

[Zunni]

You'll have an indication by the option year pickup. The Spurs must pick up his year 4 option before his 3rd season, which will be the end of this October. If they don't, you can pretty much believe they may be going in another direction.

[boutons_]

JV has been, like Elson, invisible in his entire career:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jacque....html?nav=page

If Pop doesn't give Beno development PT ahead of JV, Beno as a Spur will be finished. Beno might even be finished as an NBA player, headed back to Europe.

[ChumpDumper]

Let's talk about Beno's place in the rotation. Some folks like his potential and others (including POP maybe?) only seem to remember his problems facing the Detroit full-court press two years ago.

I completely forgot about that. I only remember his problems facing the Chuck Hayes press four months ago.

I hear rumors about his work ethic (weight problem?). Maybe Kori can fill us in about that.

I don't know what needs to be filled in -- Beno's conditioning leaves alot to be desired.

This has to be his make or break year with the Spurs. Will he get enough minutes in the rotation to be a reliable and effective subs ute or will the Spurs look to Vaughn or a trade?

Will he be a reliable and effective enough subs ute to get minutes? As I said before, if he gets beat out by Vaughn, he's finished as a Spur. I do think the Spurs will exercise his option -- not much reason against it at this point. The rest is up to him.

[angel_luv]

I really hope that Coach Popovich gives Beno minutes and a legitimate chance to prove himself this year.
I'm confident Beno will make good use of the time.

[jman3000]

i'm actually a pretty big beno fan. i think he has a nice shot and his game fits the 2nd pg role pretty good. nominally i'd like to have a pure pg as a backup, but having one that can hit the 3 with regularity and provide some semblance of offense isn't too bad either.

[jman3000]

he needs to stay away from my friends though

[djohn14]

I want Beno to do great,but I think JV will beat him out.

[Bruno]

I think that Pop and FO reasoning this summer about the backup PG spot was :
- Beno is a quite talented player (just look at his rookie year). He has the level to be a good backup PG.
- We have biggest needs than a backup PG. After filling these needs, we won't have enough money to get a clearly better backup PG than Beno.
- Beno isn't a reliable player for the moment. If he becomes the main PG backup, we need to have a solid 3rd string PG who can be the main backup if Beno struggles.

=> We will sign a solid vet who agrees to sign for the min and who can play 12 solid minutes per game if Beno struggles.

Vaughn fill that description :
- He is solid on both ends of the court : good defense and take care of the ball.
- He has a lot of experience and can become the main backup PG even in the middle of a playoff serie.
- He is good enough to be the backup PG. Even if he is a limited players, he has played at least 15 mpg for 6 years.

To me the PG situation is very simple : Tony is the starter, Beno is the backup and Vaughn is the guy who will only be used if something goes wrong.

[Bruno]

You'll have an indication by the option year pickup. The Spurs must pick up his year 4 option before his 3rd season, which will be the end of this October. If they don't, you can pretty much believe they may be going in another direction.

I don't see Spurs not picking his option : It's only $1.7M.

[bdictjames]

I dont see much potential in JV. He cant shoot the three and is undersized. Plus he's not adjusted to the Spurs trademark defense. I think I'd put Beno on the 2nd pg slot

[ChumpDumper]

Are you saying Beno plays trademark Spur defense?

[midgetonadonkey]

Doesn't Beno carry a purse?

[BeerIsGood!]

When Beno sees a full court press his eyes get wide. If he's in the game other teams are gonna go old school UNLV on our ass.

[BeerIsGood!]

Are you saying Beno plays trademark Spur defense?

The trademark Spurs defense that let every Mavs guard kiss the glass as they laid the ball in - Yes, he does.

[angel_luv]

he needs to stay away from my friends though

To ask or not to ask...

[withcheese]

this whole situation is weird.

jauque vaughn is definitely NOT a good #1 backup PG...but neither was NVE, and he got 15.2 mpg in 65 games compared to Beno's 11.1 in 53 games. Playoffs was even worse: NVE got 11.1 mpg in 12 games compared to Beno's 6.7 in 7 games.

lets all just agree that pop was an idiot for giving NVE beno's minutes in most situations.

whose to say that pop wont make the same mistake this year? another verteran PG in the twilite of his career...it seems like beno is getting the malik treatment, having his minutes cut drastically for some reason NOT related from his play on the court.

this is really the only beef i have with pop since '03...the beno/malik thing.

i think beno will remain in the doghouse this year, and jauque vaughn will get a ton of unproductive minutes that he doesnt deserve, to benos detriment.

if beno becomes the number 1 backup behind parker, i will be pleasantly surprised. if he doesnt, as i suspect, i will be disappointed.

[ChumpDumper]

If Beno doesn't drop his purse when Chuck Hayes looks at him, the job is his.

[Bruno]

lets all just agree that pop was an idiot for giving NVE beno's minutes in most situations.

whose to say that pop wont make the same mistake this year? another verteran PG in the twilite of his career...

Do you compare Jacque Vaughn to NVE ?
NVE was a great player and that's why he gets playtime over Beno. I agree that it was a mistake because NVE was awful last year.
Jacque Vaughn has never been a great player. Pop will only use him over Beno if he is better and if Beno plays at his level, Vaughn won't be better.

[Bruno]

If Beno doesn't drop his purse when Chuck Hayes looks at him, the job is his.

I won't blame Beno for something that happened in the 05-06 year.
The situation was really unfair for him : after a very good rookie year (rookie of the month + rookie game at the AS), Spurs' FO have decided that he will be a garbage player with no hope to be a rotation player for his sop re year.

[ducks]

is it pop's fault and company that beno has a bad work ethic?

[Bruno]

is it pop's fault and company that beno has a bad work ethic?

Why do you say that he has a bad work ethic ?

[BeerIsGood!]

I think because he came to camp overweight and out of shape. Also because he spends his free time getting lit in area bars.

[Bruno]

I won't call that "bad work ethic".
Some players have more difficulties to be in great shape. A lot of players are overweight and have a good work ethic.

If beno work ethic was bad, Spurs would have traded him during the 05 summer while he has a quite good trade value.