655,000 dead Iraqis because of invasion and occupation

[PixelPusher]

655,000 or 65,000. Either way that is way too many dead people.

From what I heard on the radio, the methodology used probably was not the best. Nonetheless, a lot of Iraqis have died because of our invasion.

I wonder if the disconnect might have something to do with the fact that not all casualties are caused bombs and bullets; what about drastically diminished health and hygiene?

[01Snake]

what about drastically diminished health and hygiene?

[RandomGuy]

I wonder if the disconnect might have something to do with the fact that not all casualties are caused bombs and bullets; what about drastically diminished health and hygiene?

That is actually addressed in the study as well. The decreasing lack of access to health care is really becoming a problem.

[PixelPusher]

I take it you've seen the "World of Warcraft" episode of Southpark?

[Guru of Nothing]

"better them than us".

This is one of the single most morally repugnant things I have ever seen anybody say in any forum.

It is the same moral reasoning that led the guards at concentration camps to stuff corpses into ovens. "Better a stinking jew than us..."

You are a traitor to everything that this country stands for, if you don't like living up to high moral standards, go live in North Korea where you can join others of the same moral caliber.

Perhaps you can find a place on the firing squads.

If there is a problem with the "moral caliber" of the citizenry of North Korea, I'd blame it on hunger; not some inherent ethnic flaw.

[Nbadan]

John Hopkins researcher stands by calculation methods...

The US president in the past has estimated the number of Iraqi deaths to be closer to 30,000, and reaffirmed that number Wednesday.

"I stand by the figure," he said. "Six hundred thousand or whatever they guessed at ... it's not credible."

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But the author of the study, Gilbert Burnham of the Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland, defended his findings as reliable and based on methods commonly used by researchers in the health field.

"We use a cluster survey sampling methodology and this is something that is widely used in international health," said Burnham, co-director of the center for refugees and disaster response at Johns Hopkins.

The survey method is used to confirm government figures for health indicators and "it's increasingly used to look at mortality rate in conflict," Burnham said

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Yahoo News

U.S. General Tommy Franks estimated soon after the invasion that there had been 30,000 Iraqi troops killed as of April 9, 2003. Three years later and nobody has died according to the WH