Anyone actually think Mavs can win a le with Anthony Johnson as their PG?

[mavsfan1000]

Mbenga>Elson/Oberto. The spurs will have to go small again.

[ChumpDumper]

@ Mbenga

[ambchang]

The Mavs dictated the pace of that series. After game 2, it was the Mavs' series to lose. In one of the greatest plays in recent playoff history, Nowitzki ensured that that didnt happen.

The Mavs did not play "over their heads" or overachieve in any way. The Mavs' great player, Nowitzki had not only a great series against the Spurs, but a great playoffs altogether. They have one of the top couple of defensive center rotations in the NBA, a clutch combo guard, and possibly one of the best energy/glue players since Dennis Rodman. Not to mention the best bench in the NBA.

The Spurs have a good chance to dethrone the Western Champion Mavericks just like they do every season with Duncan in the ranks.

Perhaps I didn't get the logic right, the Mavs dictated the pace of the series, and yet only won in over time of a Game 7? Doesn't that say something about the Mavs perceived dominance over the Spurs?
And I struggle to understand who you are referring to as the top couple of defensive center rotations in the NBA, and one of the best energy/glue players since Rodman?

As for clutch combo guard and best bench in the NBA, that could be argued.

[ambchang]

That "guy" diop shut down your superstar timmy duncan in the OT of game 7, do you remember ?, duncan ended up shooting 1-7 or 1-6 in the OT because Diop was in his face all the time. (have the game tivoed, don't whine it's not true)

Who said Aj will be the starting PG ? avery hasn't made up his mind yet, we'll see who he inserts in the lineup. Besides Aj is a pretty good damn PG, he scored 40 in the PO's last season, he has the capabilities to produce. And as somebody else said, you guys won it with Avery at the point, I don't see a big difference...


I'm sure he was a HUUUGE surprise, considering he scored 20 points in 1 quarter (4th) against you guys earlier in the season at Dallas... maybe your team should do a little more preparation and scouting when they play somebody.


"if DJ Mbenga can do a decent job on Duncan, the mavs will easily win in playoffs against the spurs", there you have it, good luck. Dirk and TD will get their numbers no matter what, it's up to the rest of the supporting cast (jho, jet, devin, TP, flopobili,etc) to determine the series.

You seem to put a lot of stock on exceptional performances rather than the expected output of Mavs players. Diop shut down Duncan for 5 minutes, and this is supposed to be the norm? Anthony Johnson scored 40 points in one game, and this is indicative of his scoring prowess? Do you remember sleepy floyd? He scored 29 points in a QUARTER in a playoff games vs. the Lakers in the 80s, I think he still holds a record on that, and 51 points for the game. Have you ever heard from him since? Did he become some sort of superstar?

, Tracy McGrady shut down Dirk in the 05 playoffs, doesn’t make him a great defensive forward now does it?

[td4mvp21]

You seem to put a lot of stock on exceptional performances rather than the expected output of Mavs players. Diop shut down Duncan for 5 minutes, and this is supposed to be the norm? Anthony Johnson scored 40 points in one game, and this is indicative of his scoring prowess? Do you remember sleepy floyd? He scored 29 points in a QUARTER in a playoff games vs. the Lakers in the 80s, I think he still holds a record on that, and 51 points for the game. Have you ever heard from him since? Did he become some sort of superstar?

, Tracy McGrady shut down Dirk in the 05 playoffs, doesn’t make him a great defensive forward now does it?

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Bruno]

"if DJ Mbenga can do a decent job on Duncan, the mavs will easily win in playoffs against the spurs", there you have it, good luck. Dirk and TD will get their numbers no matter what, it's up to the rest of the supporting cast (jho, jet, devin, TP, flopobili,etc) to determine the series.

Stupid post.

And in the future, please don't quote me given that I'm for you a "french " (I'm as french as Parker and as gay as him).

[Dirk41MVP]

You seem to put a lot of stock on exceptional performances rather than the expected output of Mavs players. Diop shut down Duncan for 5 minutes, and this is supposed to be the norm? Anthony Johnson scored 40 points in one game, and this is indicative of his scoring prowess? Do you remember sleepy floyd? He scored 29 points in a QUARTER in a playoff games vs. the Lakers in the 80s, I think he still holds a record on that, and 51 points for the game. Have you ever heard from him since? Did he become some sort of superstar?

, Tracy McGrady shut down Dirk in the 05 playoffs, doesn’t make him a great defensive forward now does it?

I never said they could shut down duncan all the time or AJ would score 40 pts all the time. I just said that AJ is a good PG despite what people around here think. He has the CAPABILITIES of putting up big numbers if needed, or providing help when he's on the floor. He is not a scrub like your boy Van exel was last season (random example), the guy can provide quality minutes. I never said he would score 40 a game, I said he is not bad as everybody here pictures him to be.

McGrady shut dirk down ?, nah, Dirk was off that entire season and part of the Phoenix series as well. Had he been on fire and then shut down by McGrady, I would maybe agree, but he never found a groove during those playoffs, even when being guarded by other players in red and purple uniforms. Duncan was lighting it up and then got shut down by Diop in the OT when it counted the most... and it may have been 5 minutes, but those 5 minutes cost you the entire season.

This comment was more in response to the mocking "anyone actually think the mavs can win a tile with AJ as a pg" and the same for Diop at center. I never said that would be the "norm" as you call it. If they did it, it means they have the capabilities of doing it again, will that be the "norm" ? no, but you never know what can happen in those games.

Stupid post.

And in the future, please don't quote me given that I'm for you a "french " (I'm as french as Parker and as gay as him).

Yeah I agree it's a stupid post, since it's your quote. Good luck shutting down superstars in the NBA... if that was so easy to do, well there wouldn't be any in the league... and yeah I hate frenchies, sorry.

[spurs_in_7]

suns>mavs (if amare comes back)

[mavs>spurs2]

What's wrong with Diop at center? He's better than any spurs center, i'd take him over kurt thomas, he's better than alot of centers in the west. All that's asked of him is to block shots and rebound and he does that pretty well.

[Dirk41MVP]

suns>mavs (if amare comes back)

everybody > mavs according to spurs fans.

[Bruno]

Yeah I agree it's a stupid post, since it's your quote. Good luck shutting down superstars in the NBA... if that was so easy to do, well there wouldn't be any in the league...

Learn to read.
A clue for you : "a decent job on Dirk" isn't the same thing that a "shut down defense".

and yeah I hate frenchies, sorry.

No need to be sorry. I don't care what a guy can say on an internet board.
I've just no interest to discuss with a guy with a limited mind like you.

[Dirk41MVP]

No need to be sorry. I don't care what a guy can say on an internet board. I've just no interest to discuss with a guy with a limited mind like you.

By your french ass being in this board, arguing I get the feeling you do have interest, otherwise you wouldn't be here.... good point moron, guess you're the one with a limited mind.

[Bruno]

By your french ass being in this board, arguing I get the feeling you do have interest, otherwise you wouldn't be here.... good point moron, guess you're the one with a limited mind.

You aren't alone on this board.

[dirk4mvp]

suns>mavs (if amare comes back)

From the words of Fillmoe, "Kill Yo Self!"



But he probably won't ever be the same, so I'm not worried about it.

[dirk4mvp]

suns>mavs (if amare comes back)

And if this is indeed your opinion, wouldn't it be suns> mavs and spurs? Don't be afraid to say it. Nobody's gonna talk to you if you say the suns are better.

[td4mvp21]

What's wrong with Diop at center? He's better than any spurs center, i'd take him over kurt thomas, he's better than alot of centers in the west. All that's asked of him is to block shots and rebound and he does that pretty well.

I personally don't think any thing is wrong with him, I just think it's ludicrous to say that he can contain Duncan or slow him down. He's actually decent.

[mavsfan1000]

I just get annoyed when people think of Diop as some scrub. His flaw is not being able to stay on the court enough because of foul trouble but the minutes he's on the court are very valuable to the team. Hopefully he can do a better job against Duncan this year. He's best at contesting shots from anything around the basket but Duncan does force him to stay home more.

[FromWayDowntown]

You seem to put a lot of stock on exceptional performances rather than the expected output of Mavs players. Diop shut down Duncan for 5 minutes, and this is supposed to be the norm? Anthony Johnson scored 40 points in one game, and this is indicative of his scoring prowess? Do you remember sleepy floyd? He scored 29 points in a QUARTER in a playoff games vs. the Lakers in the 80s, I think he still holds a record on that, and 51 points for the game. Have you ever heard from him since? Did he become some sort of superstar?

, Tracy McGrady shut down Dirk in the 05 playoffs, doesn’t make him a great defensive forward now does it?

Not to make excuses for Timmy -- and not to disparage the fine work that Diop did throughout that series and particularly in Game 7 -- but Duncan did spend a substantial period of time after Game 7 taking fluids and trying to overcome cramping. Diop's exceptional performance in overtime made a difference, but it may have been helped a lot by the exhaustion of his opponent. Duncan played almost 50 minutes that night; Diop played barely 10.

[Spurologist]

3 good points guards on Dallas' roster. hmmmm

Anthony Johnson is the perfect remedy to neutralize Devin Harris. It will work out that way.

The question that will need to be answered is:

Who would've thought Devin Harris would become Anthony Johnson's ?..... and they are on the same team. Say it ain't so. Say it ain't so

[spurs_in_7]

And if this is indeed your opinion, wouldn't it be suns> mavs and spurs? Don't be afraid to say it. Nobody's gonna talk to you if you say the suns are better.

for me its:

1.suns*
2.spurs
3.mavs

2007 western champs: spurs or suns*

*with a %100 amare

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

That "guy" diop shut down your superstar timmy duncan in the OT of game 7, do you remember ?, duncan ended up shooting 1-7 or 1-6 in the OT because Diop was in his face all the time. (have the game tivoed, don't whine it's not true)

Who said Aj will be the starting PG ? avery hasn't made up his mind yet, we'll see who he inserts in the lineup. Besides Aj is a pretty good damn PG, he scored 40 in the PO's last season, he has the capabilities to produce. And as somebody else said, you guys won it with Avery at the point, I don't see a big difference...

Get off the pipe.

Once we went into OT in game 7 it was over because all of our starters had played 40+ minutes and already used all their energy to come back from 20 down. Duncan had nothing left, it was not Diop "shutting him down", especially given the way Tim owned anyone the Mavs threw at him to average, what was it, 35ppg for the series? Wanker.

By your french ass being in this board, arguing I get the feeling you do have interest, otherwise you wouldn't be here.... good point moron, guess you're the one with a limited mind.

And now you go racist against the French, what a charming human being you are. What the has race got to do with basketball, fvckwad? People like you make me sick. YOU are the one with very little in your head. Why don't you go back to your little circle-jerk Dallas world, there is nothing for you here.

[dirk4mvp]

for me its:

1.suns*
2.spurs
3.mavs

2007 western champs: spurs or suns*

*with a %100 amare

Don't kid yourself. Even with a 100% Amare, the Mavs and Spurs are better than the Suns.

[ambchang]

I never said they could shut down duncan all the time or AJ would score 40 pts all the time. I just said that AJ is a good PG despite what people around here think. He has the CAPABILITIES of putting up big numbers if needed, or providing help when he's on the floor. He is not a scrub like your boy Van exel was last season (random example), the guy can provide quality minutes. I never said he would score 40 a game, I said he is not bad as everybody here pictures him to be.

Taking Anthony Johnson's 40 point game as an indication of his capability is akin to taking Sleepy Floyd's 51 point game as an indication of his capabilities; it's misleading.

McGrady shut dirk down ?, nah, Dirk was off that entire season and part of the Phoenix series as well. Had he been on fire and then shut down by McGrady, I would maybe agree, but he never found a groove during those playoffs, even when being guarded by other players in red and purple uniforms. Duncan was lighting it up and then got shut down by Diop in the OT when it counted the most... and it may have been 5 minutes, but those 5 minutes cost you the entire season.

So why can't Duncan be just "off" in that OT? Why would a player who was averaging over 12 fouls per 48 minutes in a series turn in 5 minutes of solid performance in a 7 game series (which has more than 350 minutes) be ANY indication that Diop is capable of shutting down Duncan, while McGrady being able to do so consistently on Dirk over a 7 game series be just an "off-series" for McGrady? This makes absolutely ZERO sense. This is actually even more humourous considering that YOU came up with the following sarcastic quote:

I'll take Diop, since he already shut him down in the OT of game 7, making him go 1-6 or 1-7 something like that.. oh wait, I forgot. Duncan's PF kicked in at the start of OT in that game... right, my bad

So in your universe, a 5 minute showing is indicative of a player's ability, while a solid 7 game showing is just an aberration from the season?

This comment was more in response to the mocking "anyone actually think the mavs can win a tile with AJ as a pg" and the same for Diop at center. I never said that would be the "norm" as you call it. If they did it, it means they have the capabilities of doing it again, will that be the "norm" ? no, but you never know what can happen in those games.

So what you are saying is that Anthony Johnson has the capabilities of scoring 40 points because he has done that before, with his next career high at 27 points (I think)? Nick Van Exel scored in the 30's regularly a couple of years back, guess what? It wasn't indicative of what he is able to do for the Spurs last year. Samuel Dalembert grabbed 22 rebounds once, doesn't mean ANYTHING other than the fact that he did it once in his career.

Yeah I agree it's a stupid post, since it's your quote. Good luck shutting down superstars in the NBA... if that was so easy to do, well there wouldn't be any in the league... and yeah I hate frenchies, sorry.

I will try not to comment on your racist views ....

[ambchang]

Don't kid yourself. Even with a 100% Amare, the Mavs and Spurs are better than the Suns.

Noooooooooooo! I agree with a Mavs fan!

[dirk4mvp]

Noooooooooooo! I agree with a Mavs fan!