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    Plus having a guy like Diop as their starting center

    guess people can say the same whoever the spurs have at center

    what has happened to devin harris? getting beat out of a starting job by anthony freaking johnson?

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    Sounds like a question for Damon Stoudemire.

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    I can say this with alot of confidence, If they don't have Devin Harris playing the way he was last year against us, they won't beat us. It was his ability to penetrate at will that really killed us. He gave the Mavs that one extra dimension that gave them the edge in beating us, even then we were a foul call away from beating them.

    Terry - Howard - and Dirk are beatable. Harris was the straw that broke our back. And if he at all goes Jaren Jackson on them, they may find they are misssing a crucial ingredient to stopping us.

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    Anthony Johnson was one of the only bright spots for the Pacers in the playoffs last season. He's far from being a slouch. That 40 spot he laid on the Nets in the final playoff game to keep his team in it was inspiring.

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    Yeah, but Devin Harris was the element of surprise ; this time, Spurs will be prepared

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    Yeah, but Devin Harris was the element of surprise ; this time, Spurs will be prepared
    How were the spurs not prepared for Devin Harris? It's hard to prepare for speed.

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    Why can't they?? He's a decent point guard.

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    How were the spurs not prepared for Devin Harris? It's hard to prepare for speed.
    Considering he had not even played in a few weeks it seems likely he took them by surprise. But he did play well against them in the regular season so it was not a total shock. The biggest problem was that they didn't protect the rim well. Duncan was the only big on the floor and he had no vertical. Aside from him their best shot blocker was Horry and he didn't play much either. Harris had a free road to the basket. That changed when he ran into Shaq and Mourning. Hopefully it will change with a healthy Duncan and someone like Elson but who knows... the guy is only going to get better.

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    Anthony Johnson is starting?

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    Anthony Johnson will not be depended on to make large contributions to wins. He is a role player on a team that wants the ball in the hands of 1) Dirk, 2) Terry, and 3) Howard.

    Devin Harris will be depended on for the same contributions that he made against the Spurs last season, and nothing about the Spurs' offseason moves should have quelled your fears about seeing Harris fly to the rim again this season.

    Dallas dictated the style of play against the Spurs throughout the series, and their star player Nowitzki looked like the best player in the world for those two weeks.

    I have a hard time thinking that a further aged Spurs squad that looked overmatched against Dallas last season will be able to overcome a reenergized and better Dallas team that has yet to peak.

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    Plus having a guy like Diop as their starting center

    guess people can say the same whoever the spurs have at center

    what has happened to devin harris? getting beat out of a starting job by anthony freaking johnson?
    You've just realised that Mavs aren't that talented.
    If Elson/oberto can do a decent job on Dirk (it's a big if), Spurs will easily win in playoffs against mavs.

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    You've just realised that Mavs aren't that talented.
    If Elson/oberto can do a decent job on Dirk (it's a big if), Spurs will easily win in playoffs against mavs.
    Dirk owns the Spurs, fellas.

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    Devin Harris will be depended on for the same contributions that he made against the Spurs last season, and nothing about the Spurs' offseason moves should have quelled your fears about seeing Harris fly to the rim again this season.
    Other than, perhaps, Games 6 and 7 of the 2006 Western Conference Semi-Final series between the Spurs and Mavericks, right?

    If Harris isn't the starter for that team this season, will AJ lose him? I'd be curious to see how well a demotion to the bench would sit with the young man.

    I have a hard time thinking that a further aged Spurs squad that looked overmatched against Dallas last season will be able to overcome a reenergized and better Dallas team that has yet to peak.
    I have a hard time seeing how a retooled Spurs roster that was thatclose to rallying from 1-3 down and 20 down in Game 7 to eliminate the Mavericks (in the end, the Spurs had that ability totally within their grasp) and has added much-needed athleticism to the fold isn't a legitimate threat to whatever perceived hegemony Mavericks' fans ascribe to their team. Can the Mavericks beat the Spurs? Sure. Are the Spurs equally well-situated to take back the West? Absolutely.

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    Why is Anthony Johnson starting? Terry has moved to the 2?

    Either way, Johnson is the BEST backup PG in the league, and certainly a serviceable starter, so I wouldn't be writing the Mavs off because of him or anyone else. They will be top 3 in the West again, and maybe even win it - look at their depth, it's better than ours.

    That being said, I think we can beat them when it comes down to it because our team has always been whole>>>>>sum of parts.

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    Anthony Johnson starting is a move I see Avery doing.

    Looking for that "spark" off the bench in Harris, while Anthony would run the offense and play solid D, while Terry would play his natural position at 2.

    Makes sense.

    Johnson is no slouch, good outside shot, decent to good defender.

    Best trade the Mavericks made in the last couple years since acquiring Terry.

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    Can Harris shoot the trey too? That'd be a big up for the Mavs. I wish Tony Parker got his 3 pt touch this season

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    If Harris isn't the starter for that team this season, will AJ lose him?
    Thats a legitimate question. Harris is pretty well self-motivated and fully intends to succeed in the NBA. If things dont work out for him in Dallas, Im sure that they will elsewhere and he knows that. He also knows that its in his best interest to perform while he's in big D contributing on a championship-calibur team.

    I'd be curious to see how well a demotion to the bench would sit with the young man.
    It wouldnt be a demotion because he wasnt a starter at any point last season. He was coming into this season as a possible starter. Not a starter by default.



    I have a hard time seeing how a retooled Spurs roster that was thatclose to rallying from 1-3 down and 20 down in Game 7 to eliminate the Mavericks (in the end, the Spurs had that ability totally within their grasp) and has added much-needed athleticism to the fold isn't a legitimate threat to whatever perceived hegemony Mavericks' fans ascribe to their team. Can the Mavericks beat the Spurs? Sure. Are the Spurs equally well-situated to take back the West? Absolutely.
    I wouldnt say that the Spurs are equally capable, but they are capable as a close compe or. Dallas is better this season. They made some outstanding personnel moves in the offseason, and added to their excellent and stable core.

    I wouldnt say that SA is necessarily better than they were last season. The center rotation is still questionable.

    Finley, Barry, and Bowen are a year older and slower. Those guys are all important players for SA.

    Duncan is perpetually injured, and he isnt getting any younger. I wouldnt expect him to make any exponential leaps in production. Ginobili is older as well.

    I am a firm believer that this is the Spurs' last shot. If they have that understanding in the locker room, that makes them more difficult to deal with this season. However, one long-term injury to Duncan puts that team in the lottery.

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    Why is Anthony Johnson starting? Terry has moved to the 2?

    Either way, Johnson is the BEST backup PG in the league, and certainly a serviceable starter, so I wouldn't be writing the Mavs off because of him or anyone else. They will be top 3 in the West again, and maybe even win it - look at their depth, it's better than ours.

    That being said, I think we can beat them when it comes down to it because our team has always been whole>>>>>sum of parts.
    Earl Boykins
    Leandrinho Barbosa
    Marcus Banks
    Marko Jaric
    Shaun Livingston
    Raymond Felton

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    Duncan is perpetually injured


    Can we play the damn season first before we determine that?

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    Can we play the damn season first before we determine that?
    Duncan has chronic lower leg/foot injuries. Those things are never fully rehabilitated and tend to result in other peripheral injuries. Duncan is not getting younger either. It would be better for you guys to expect him to sit out some, because at this stage in his career it is more likely than him not being affected by the injuries.

    Duncan gave a heroic effort against the Mavs. No doubt about that. That effort was in spite of his injuries.

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    You are full of .

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    Duncan has chronic lower leg/foot injuries. Those things are never fully rehabilitated and tend to result in other peripheral injuries. Duncan is not getting younger either. It would be better for you guys to expect him to sit out some, because at this stage in his career it is more likely than him not being affected by the injuries.

    Duncan gave a heroic effort against the Mavs. No doubt about that. That effort was in spite of his injuries.
    You do know that he's been constantly talking about he's in the best shape in about 5 years?

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    Duncan has chronic lower leg/foot injuries. Those things are never fully rehabilitated and tend to result in other peripheral injuries. Duncan is not getting younger either. It would be better for you guys to expect him to sit out some, because at this stage in his career it is more likely than him not being affected by the injuries.

    Duncan gave a heroic effort against the Mavs. No doubt about that. That effort was in spite of his injuries.
    That "heroic" effort was the normal TD who still had a little pain left. But thanks for your input Nostradamus!

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    Earl Boykins
    Leandrinho Barbosa
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    Marko Jaric
    Shaun Livingston
    Raymond Felton
    I was thinking in terms of a player who can do everything on the court - run the team, defend, and score. Although not brilliant at anything, Johnson is as solid as they come.

    Johnson is a much better defender than Boykins.
    Barbosa is more a pure scorer than a PG.
    Johnson is better than Jaric.
    Felton will start this year.

    Banks was a starter last year, thus I didn't think of him, but he's pretty damn fine. Livingston is also very good and getting better, and it wouldn't surprise me if he is starting by the middle of the year.

    Okay, revision, AJ is one of the top 3 backups in the league. Happy?

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    Also, since when is 30 over the hill for a big man, and 29 getting old for a guard? For basketball players 27-32 is generally their PEAK!

    This is just a case of Mavs fans making up BS to justify why the Spurs are crap. Well, we're not crap, and we will be fighting you for the le for at least the next 3 years, so y'all should just STFU!

    If you really want to talk about age and make a decent argument, you should point to our bench. Morons.

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