I just meant politicians - all politicians, geez.
Yeah i saw that, and I take offense to christians labeling others as bad just because of how they like to spend their money.Is it me, or did you guys miss the point about people claiming to be Christian, but actually going against true Christian values?
Once again, mind your own business is a good thing to hold onto.
Thanks for the clarification. I thought you meant all of us immoral conspirators at the grass roots level.
What does Christ say about your money?
Hey 101, you must be a first on this board. I often
wonder why all the liberals, I don't consider you one,
think that everyone is en led to what everyone
else has. How about you live within your means.
I mean, like, I don't have a private jet, like say:
the Donald or even Rush Limbaugh. So should
the government provide one for me?
So should everyone have cable TV, hi-speed
Internet, a computer, a telephone, A/C, central
heating and the taxpayers pay for it.
Yeah, I am a conservative. I didn't have the
above mentioned things for years and may even
lose them again. But why should I and YOU pay
for someone to have them that cant afford to
pay for them?
So now, you want to argue about my statement
have at it. I pay my own bills, always have, and
hope to always do so. I don't expect anyone on
this board or country to pay them.
Now tell me how wonderful you are by asking
everyone else to pay for someone else bills
through their taxes. You want their bills paid
by others, then pay the bills. Don't demand that
everyone else pay them. Come on you damn
liberals dig deep in your own pockets and show
us your stuff..
By "going against Christian values," do you mean voting Republican?Is it me, or did you guys miss the point about people claiming to be Christian, but actually going against true Christian values?
You mean people being fallible human beings that allow their physical nature to dominate their spiritual nature? Or are you referring to people who claim a Judeo-Christian iden y that is based purely on familial or nationalistic heritage?
You know, like all the Catholics who only go to Mass on every other Easter, but have a sticker of the Virgin Mary in the back window of their Chevy truck?
Or your neighbor who says he is Baptist but mows his lawn or goes fishing every Sunday morning?
Just because someone claims to be something does not mean that they adhere steadfastly or even occasionally to the tenants of what they claim to believe.
I take that overused image as a yes response, and I also take it to mean you are in favor of Theocracy. Curious.
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So does having 5 cars for a two person family make me a bad person?
Not in my book. Do you have one with low mileage,So does having 5 cars for a two person family make me a bad person?
American, rides easy, uses lots of gas and steers
real easy you want to sell at a good price. I love
the old mushy ride, lots of leg room and I can get
into instead of putting on.
Only if you are a RepublicanSo does having 5 cars for a two person family make me a bad person?
Haha. I've got 2 that get less than 10 mpg. Gotta have my speed fix!
I almost went broke keeping my truck gassed up over the last 18 months, but I'll be damned if I give it up just to drive what the Asian car companies are passing off as "cars" these days. I've had bigger RC cars than what they are putting on the road today.
Hey! One of those sub 10mpg cars is a Toyota.
It certainly make you the darling of whatever car insurance company you use.So does having 5 cars for a two person family make me a bad person?
Not quite what I meant.
I meant that the Dems are just as "moral" as the Republicans, but those moral people tend to be a bit less overtly pious, ala Jerry Falwell on the GOP. Moral Dems don't tend to shout their religion from the rooftops.
I did, however, exactly mean that the GOP at the top is a bunch of immoral manipulators.
There is a new book out by a guy who was highly ranked in the office of Faith Based Initiatives, who lists new few number of times that the White House staffers would give lip service to the Evangelicals and other religious types that would call or visit and then make fun of them behind their backs, then go on to pretty much ignore their concerns, as well as never give this cabinet level agency the funding it needed to do anything it was supposed to do.
The GOP takes these people for granted, just as the Dems take the black and hispanic votes for granted.
Letting people starve to death is also morally wrong, is it not?
Ignoring the poor when you can help is also morally wrong is it not?
Maybe not pious, but they certainly have self-righteous indignation down pat.
Yes.
Yes.Ignoring the poor when you can help is also morally wrong is it not?
But the lord would also, IMO, look unfavorably at the person who supports higher taxes to feed the starving, pays those taxes to help the poor, but stops there, and doesn't recognize that those taxes, in fact, did not feed that many starving, or help that many poor.
I fight, and vote, for lower taxes, so that, in part, I can keep more of my own, so that I have more to give to organizations that will actually do some good - and help people to not be poor and starving anymore.
Please remember that all of these Christians who you condemn for not wanting to waste there money in tax dollars, if they go to church weekly, are putting money in the collection plate. (If they are Protestant, their preachers are probably harping on it - the bi-annual sermon I didn't have to hear when I was Catholic).
If my taxes are higher, less of my money goes to the United Way. I give directly to Boysville, and organization on the Northeast side of SA. Once taxes go up, I'll give less.
Yes, but as I said...
In other words, the government doesn't (or shouldn't) feed the poor or house the homeless because it's the "moral" thing to do. The government should do it because it's their responsibility to.
It's not charity, it's protection.
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OVERTLY
–adverb openly; publicly.
PIOUS
–adjective having or showing a dutiful spirit of reverence for God or an earnest wish to fulfill religious obligations.
How is a Christian who holds firm to the tenants of their faith not going to be overt or pious? Is that not a part of being a real Christian? Making one's life a public example of how Christ lived and sharing one's faith with others?
I understand that you probably were going for pompous instead of pious, but this thread is all about being un-Christian, yet you are implying that Christians should tone down how much they act like a Christian. How do I do that? Be against same-sex marriages, abortion and so forth but never speak up about it? Quite frankly, I would be suspect of someone who adhered to a particular faith and was not willing to take a stand against those things that were in direct violation of the tenants of that faith.
As far as Jerry goes, well, he is still getting over the stereotype from the heyday of the Moral Majority. I actually attend Liberty University where I am working on my MBA. If the university is any indication, I can promise you that he is not the constipated, stuffed-shirt legalistic bigot as he has been portrayed.
This is garbage.
The Republican Party has spent decades trying to co-opt morality, pushing voters to their side by claiming to represent American values. They promote themselves as "Christians" as if Dems aren't. They pretend to have these so-called values of integrity and faithfulness to their wives and being against child molestation, but yet, they cover for their people when a child predator is discovered, they cover for their people when they commit adultery, they lied America into war and on and on.
The hypocricy!
They run on "morality" all of the time!
Your thought was prematurely ejaculated here.This is garbage.
The hypocricy!
They run on "morality" all of the time!
Since when does Spurminator follow the GOP line 100%?
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