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So the Spurs were +10 in the Rockets game with Bowen on the floor and they were -15 when he was off the floor. And you want Bowen off the floor more?
Iīm saying that,if his not stoping the best perimetrals players like he used to,his presence on the floor is almost pointless,cause he is not a scorer,his 3īs are not falling and guys are playing out of their minds against him.I know the reffs are calling fauls diferent this year tham years ago,but we canīt just sit down and cry about it.letīs do something!
So the Spurs were +10 in the Rockets game with Bowen on the floor and they were -15 when he was off the floor. And you want Bowen off the floor more?
^^^^laughter ensues
I really HONESTLY watched Bowen all flippin night at the game...even spilled my eight dollar beer when Tracy made tough shot after tough shot. I think his effort and positioning was amazing. Even MASTERFUL. But with most superstars...when they get that hot, no one man can stop them and that's what happened. Bowen defended very well.
Toltally agree, I kept rewinding T Macs made shots, and every one of them, with the exception of one play on the baseline that Bowen overpursued and T Mac got a and one, Bowen was all up in T Macs , only a player like T Mac could make those shots
Another note, he's shooting 44% from 3. Fifth or so in the league.
Ouch
kori,I know that you always go by the numbers,and I respect that.I look at the numbers too,but I donīt go by them to make a judgemnt.and you know better tham anybody that the spurs suck on the 3rd quarter and the bigginin of the 4 rd quarter since always,I donīt think It was a Bowen factor what puted us -15 in the game.it just happens all the time,and sometimes theyīre strong enough to make a comeback and sometimes (like against the rockets)they come up shortSo the Spurs were +10 in the Rockets game with Bowen on the floor and they were -15 when he was off the floor. And you want Bowen off the floor more?
So what does that have to do with Bowen? Sounds more like a team problem
TMac scored like 12 ponts in six minutes when Brice was sitting. Maybe that was a factor.I donīt think It was a Bowen factor what puted us -15 in the game.
what about since the old ball came back?
or maybe it was that we couldn't hit a ing shot. Had no offesive rebounding, and were turning the ball over more than a college team. and our offense was a complete mess. and Pop's lineups were atrocious. maybe it was related to that?
It is a team problem,no doubt,but It got some to do the our perimetral D.and a poor perimetral Offense.
Wasn't Bowen guarding TMac in Houston when he scored 11 points in 44 seconds (or something like that) to beat us that time. What does that mean other than TMac can shoot like and score in bunches at times?
Everybody loves Bowen's D but when he plays some of these hot shooters he doesn't do much on the offensive end because he's using himself up.
If he isn't shooting or can't hit for around 8-10 and get a couple of rebounds, and his man is knocking down 25 then we have a terrible mismatch at the position.
If your man outscores you 25-2 then it really doesn't matter that you were guarding him close all night.
I think because of Bowen's reputation, guys like TMac, Kobe, etc really just want to stick it to him and that's exactly what they've been doing all year.
He's close to 36 years old. THIRTY SIX!
maybe the -15 was with duncan sitting along side with bruce. the other teams score a lot without duncan there.
What do you care? Isn't that just a stupid number that somehow doesn't factor into the Argie emotional rant?
EXACTLY! BRICE!! That somemuhmuh is gonna get a kick in the jewels if I ever see him!!
well it looks like you just look at the stats when it comes to TP
this lunatic is all over the ing place.
Prozac please, take it..
While it may be easy to do, I'm not going to "pile on" Bowen here. He's as much of a warrior as anyone on this team. That's not to say he is without fault. I just happen to have an easier target to vent my "piss & vinegar-smelling" anger and contempt against - the front office.
Pop and R.C. are supposed to be the visonaries here. They are the ones who are supposed to chart the destiny of the franchise; making the right personnel moves; making sure the team is championship-level compe ive each year of the Duncan era.
While Bowen may be very capable of playing 35+ mins every night - why does he have to? Because there's no one else on the roster who posesses his unique defensive skills. That's been a big problem for a couple of years. It was on full visual display during the WCSF vs the Mavs. When Bowen literally changed assignments from Dirk to Josh and back again from game to game - sometimes within the same game. There's simply not enough of him to go around. Having said all that, the Spurs FO have routinely "pushed the envelope" every year and failed to identifying a capable backup/understudy for him.
Bringing in both Barry and Finley in consecutive years was two big mistakes These two acquisitions, along with lacking a shot-blocking presence in the post, are a large part to blame for the diminished defens this year.
Of course, they would have never had to worry about identifying a backup for Bowen had they simply selected Josh Howard in the 2003 draft. (Don't get me started again on that one).
Bowen is still ONE of the best D men in the league. But not nearly what he was a couple of years ago. He is getting old. And there is no one else on the team that can play as well of D as he can. It would be great for him to come off the bench next year with some pressure D and some spot up 3's but lets face it if that were to be the case he would be a waste of a roster spot IMO. I think this should be his last year in SA. And if not he should somehow get limites minutes nxt yr. But again, that doesnt really make sense to me either.
Next year lets say goodbye to Finley, Horry, Beno, Bowen, Fabricio, Vaughn, and J Butler. Thats alot to say goodbye to so I dont it will happen the way we want it to. But I know if the spurs dont get another championship this season or next then we may have to wait quite some time until the next Timmy or D Rob comes around...And what are the chances that that player exists and somehow falls to us? I am actually scared for my SPURS now...
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