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    Alright, it's taken you a good 40 minutes to figure out Barak Obama is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. Now how long will it take you to figure out how the Republicans might try to use his membership therein to discredit Obama politically?

    A day?

    A week?

    SO you're point is that TOm Tancredo is only using attacking the groups like the CBC who have not supported Barrack and have his opponent, to attack Obama?


    What a load of .

    Why did you bring in Obama and such a half ass conspiracy.


    Maybe you were laughing at your own delusion this whole time.

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    Two months?

    Six months?

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    Two weeks and a month before you figure out Obama's presidential race had nothing to do with Tancredo's wanting to abolish Minority caucuses.

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    A year?

    Before the presidential election?

    We should probably make a vBookie wager.

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    500

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    with 500 dollars you could be virtually e-rich and able to earn respect among all your peers.


    Knock yourself out.

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    We could have another bet for how long it takes you to figure out what the vBookie bet would be about. I really didn't think you were this dense. You continue to amaze.

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    500 dollars,

    THe bet is about wether the repugs will use Obama's CBC membership to attack him.

    There i win 500 dollars,

    i feel cooler now.

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    Chumpdumper adhominem attack w/ vbookie wager in 3... 2....1....


    place your bets everybody.

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    Alright, an hour and fifteen minutes to figure out the point I originally made.

    Excellent work!

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    Alright, an hour and fifteen minutes to figure out the off topic point I originally made.

    Excellent work!

    I agree.

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    It had everything to do with the topic of Republicans speaking out against minority-only caucuses.

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    GOI silly conservatives, it's a freaking caucus. Wanna know how many congressional member organizations there are in Congress? I just checked on lexisnexis.

    Here's a sampling:

    bike caucus
    boating caucus
    caucus on global road safety
    caucus on enic issues
    caucus on the netherlands
    children's caucus
    dairy farmer caucus
    entertainment industries caucus
    friends of animals caucus
    friends of spain caucus
    horse caucus
    israel allies caucus
    native american caucus
    congressional PRAYER caucus
    shipbuilding caucus
    ski and snowboard caucus
    songwriters caucus
    friends of norway, paraguay, switzerland caucuses
    house beef caucus

    way to be selective about your examples dumbass tancredo...and the bad thing is, dumb people fall for it without doing more research

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    GOI silly conservatives, it's a freaking caucus. Wanna know how many congressional member organizations there are in Congress? I just checked on lexisnexis.

    Here's a sampling:

    bike caucus
    boating caucus
    caucus on global road safety
    caucus on enic issues
    caucus on the netherlands
    children's caucus
    dairy farmer caucus
    entertainment industries caucus
    friends of animals caucus
    friends of spain caucus
    horse caucus
    israel allies caucus
    native american caucus
    congressional PRAYER caucus
    shipbuilding caucus
    ski and snowboard caucus
    songwriters caucus
    friends of norway, paraguay, switzerland caucuses
    house beef caucus

    way to be selective about your examples dumbass tancredo...and the bad thing is, dumb people fall for it without doing more research

    You're totally right if he said caucuses by essence are bad. But he didn't slam caucuses or membership groups as a whole, becuase those groups don't discriminate on race.

    Racial Caucuses do.

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    You're totally right if he said caucuses by essence are bad. But he didn't slam caucuses or membership groups as a whole, becuase those groups don't discriminate on race.

    Racial Caucuses do.
    except that the ehtnic and race-based caucuses don't restrict membership to members outside of that race/ethnicity. the congressional handbook has no restrictions as to who can and who can't join. also, he didn't target the religious "prayer" caucus, what's up with that? not everyone is into that kind of stuff and religious boundaries have no place in government...BUT, that doesn't irk me because it's a caucus and nothing more.

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    except that the ehtnic and race-based caucuses don't restrict membership to members outside of that race/ethnicity. the congressional handbook has no restrictions as to who can and who can't join. also, he didn't target the religious "prayer" caucus, what's up with that? not everyone is into that kind of stuff and religious boundaries have no place in government...BUT, that doesn't irk me because it's a caucus and nothing more.
    Evidently there is an unwritten rule...


    Why Did a Major Capitol Hill Group Reject a Freshman Congressman?

    Tuesday, January 23, 2007

    By Brit Hume

    A Matter of Color

    When Tennessee Democratic Congressman Stephen Cohen replaced Harold Ford — who quit to run for senate — he wanted to establish a firm connection in the black community — since his district in Memphis is majority African-American.

    Cohen said he would be honored to join the Congressional Black Caucus — although he never actually applied. Still — he's been rejected anyway — because he is white. Cohen tells politico.com, "I think they're real happy I'm not going to join."

    A House aide says the bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership. But Congressman William Clay, Jr. says, "It's an unwritten rule."
    However, I think this unwritten rule is not found in every racial/ethnic caucus. The Hispanic caucus has non-Hispanic members from majority-Hispanic districts.

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    It had everything to do with the topic of Republicans speaking out against minority-only caucuses, and Obamaphobia.

    no, that's not what i read.

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    Why don't we make the KKK accept black members, then we can all stop this bickering.

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    Wow, that's a totally valid comparison.

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    I think it's valid. Republicans have a strange sense of what topics should be address. They claim their party to be based on values, but fail to practice them. A group is a group, all with agenda's. The groups that don't agree with each other go on the attack. It's one area that all can agree.

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    I'm not sure what you're saying. All that I have is you think the Black and Hispanic Caucuses are comparable to the KKK. I'm confused, are you arguing FOR or AGAINST their existence in Congress?

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    Why don't we make the KKK accept black members, then we can all stop this bickering.
    "Whaaayyyyte Paaawwur!"

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    whether they exist in or out of congress means nothing of conseqeunce(sp). They lack law making power. Why the uproar?

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    no, that's not what i read.
    Sorry, you've proven yourself to be extremely slow on the uptake. You aren't very smart, so no one can expect you to understand anything written here.

    Ever.

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    i agree with yoni on this one, i think the very premise that the african american community and the hispanic community need to present a unified voice is a flawed concept, that marginalizes these groups and is an essentialist argument. I mean the word hispanic for instince, doesn't even represent a single ethnic group, it's a broad term applied to almost all heritages from nations with spanish as a primary language.

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