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    Isn't there some Wikipedia Fallacy defined that explains what Nbadan just did?

    So, are the consumption numbers factual or not?

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    But electric company spokeswoman Laurie Parker said the utility never got a request from the policy center and never provided them with any information.

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    ^^^

    So, they very well might have lied about where the information came from.

    Gore didn't deny it.

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    Deny what?

    That his house is bigger than a one-bedroom apartment? That "green" energy typically costs more?

    Give me a break! Al Gore may very well be a big fat ing hypocrite, along with being the most boring and uninspiring personality in our country this side of John Kerry, but I can't believe you guys don't see the many logical flaws in this accusation. And now that the accusation has been shown to be without merit, you still want him to deny it?

    The unfaithful preacher is more effectively shunned by members of his own congregation than by a rival church. If you want to attack the theory of Global Warming, stick to the actual debate. Don't cling to this bull as though you actually care about his energy consumption. That's lazy.

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    Who cares. Bush still has two years to turn the earths surface into glass.

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    Deny what?

    That his house is bigger than a one-bedroom apartment? That "green" energy typically costs more?

    Give me a break! Al Gore may very well be a big fat ing hypocrite, along with being the most boring and uninspiring personality in our country this side of John Kerry, but I can't believe you guys don't see the many logical flaws in this accusation. And now that the accusation has been shown to be without merit, you still want him to deny it?
    But, he didn't deny it, he tried to explain it away.

    The unfaithful preacher is more effectively shunned by members of his own congregation than by a rival church. If you want to attack the theory of Global Warming, stick to the actual debate. Don't cling to this bull as though you actually care about his energy consumption. That's lazy.
    Ah, but there wouldn't be a debate but for the Algore's of the world trying to lie credibility into the whole sham.

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    I think Scott Ott over at Scrappleface.com has hit on another fitting analogy to Gore's buying of indulgences from the Church of Global Warming:

    Gore Lives Carbon-Neutral, Fat-Neutral Lifestyle
    (2007-02-28) — Oscar-winning filmmaker Al Gore today expanded his call for Americans to reduce their output of greenhouse gases — the so-called carbon-footprint — adding a demand to cut the rate of adult-onset obesity, which he termed “your gluteal fatprint.”

    Speaking to fellow Oscar winners who flew in to Nashville last night for a banquet at his 10,000 square-foot residence, Mr. Gore explained that Americans burn too much carbon-rich fuel, and eat too much fatty food.

    While conservative groups have attacked Mr. Gore’s “hypocrisy” on the global-warming issue, since his Tennessee home burns 15 times the electricity of the average home and he often flies on corporate jets, Mr. Gore maintains that he lives a “carbon-neutral” lifestyle because he also invests in solar and wind energy projects to counterbalance his own substantial carbon-footprint.

    “Many people don’t realize that I also live a fat-neutral lifestyle,” Mr. Gore said. “While the inconvenient truth is that I’ve gained a few pounds since I beat George Bush at the polls in 2000, I also make large investments in companies that produce bran, sprouts and legumes, thereby reducing my “real feel” weight to around 175.”

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    He shouldn't be living in a mansion if he's going to preach about being green. Thats a huge point and if he's going to say we need to make changes he should be the one to start.

    I don't deny this country needs change and I guess Al Gore's movie tried to do good (although I didn't like it much) and the scientific facts are out there for all to see, but it is undeniable this paints Gore as a huge asswipe. Carbon credits are bull , because before you go out and tell people to do something or do more, you better make sure you are doing all that you can. Having money doesn't mean you get to make more CO2 for the rest of us; or at least it shouldn't.

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    Just allow them this tiny distraction to plant their focus. The reality of their world is caving in. Show some mercy.

    Their chosen, heroic one said it best. "You have to look at the wolf that's eating you".

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    He shouldn't be living in a mansion if he's going to preach about being green. Thats a huge point and if he's going to say we need to make changes he should be the one to start....before you go out and tell people to do something or do more, you better make sure you are doing all that you can.
    Has Gore ever suggested that people should completely alter their lifestyles? I haven't seen the movie (and I won't) but I've never gotten the impression that this is a movement that suggests you should live well below your means to conserve energy.

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    Has Gore ever suggested that people should completely alter their lifestyles? I haven't seen the movie (and I won't) but I've never gotten the impression that this is a movement that suggests you should live well below your means to conserve energy.

    Dude has natural gas lanterns lining his driveway burning every night, and a heated pool....that 1 house (he has at least 3), burns 20 TIMES what the average US house does - if he believes global warming is truly something that mankind is responsible for, then he is not doing much of anything to reduce that effect, in fact he is doing more than the VAST majority of human beings.

    This is very much like that evangelist in Colorado preaching on Sunday against gay marriage, while banging a male pros ute on Monday.

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    Has Gore ever suggested that people should completely alter their lifestyles?
    Not just people, but countries (ours).

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    Yeah, right, this is JUST like a preacher bashing gays on sunday and blowing one on monday. Nice try.

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    The gay gay-bashing "minister" has repented and been pronounced cured and "completely hetero sexual" by other self-interested "ministers", so maybe there's hope for Big Al.

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    Yeah, right, this is JUST like a preacher bashing gays on sunday and blowing one on monday. Nice try.

    Please explain.

    IMO:

    Bash con uous consumption one day; consume (extremely, grotesquely, profoundly) con uously the next.

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    The gay gay-bashing "minister" has repented and been pronounced cured and "completely hetero sexual" by other self-interested "ministers", ...

    I wonder if dude got a bumper sticker (so to speak)?

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    Has Gore ever suggested that people should completely alter their lifestyles? I haven't seen the movie (and I won't) but I've never gotten the impression that this is a movement that suggests you should live well below your means to conserve energy.

    Of course he hasn't.

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    Then what is it he is saying? Be alarmist and advocate no change in behavior? Talk about a problem, and possibly throw money at it? Wait....

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    Doh!


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    From the academy voters:


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    .....

    I don't deny this country needs change and I guess Al Gore's movie tried to do good (although I didn't like it much) and the scientific facts are out there for all to see,......

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    From the academy voters:

    FYI, they drove hybrid limos at the Oscars.

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    FYI, they drove hybrid limos at the Oscars.
    Symbolism over substance


    The "Photo" is from one of the parties afterward not at the oscars.
    Last edited by BIG IRISH; 03-02-2007 at 04:40 AM.

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    Ramirez is a right winger. Every one of his cartoons slams dems..

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