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    Some of it may stem from the fact there weren't alot of pictures taken of the south side WTC7 after the North tower collapse. I've seen pictures of the SW corner of it that had huge chunks taken out about seven floors high IIRC, and there is one video on the internet that shows the top of the south face before it was obscured by smoke -- and there was an enormous hole visible right below the top of the building. Those images and the eyewitness accounts of firemen describing the rest of the south face have convinced me more than any alternative explanation.

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    Some of it may stem from the fact there weren't alot of pictures taken of the south side WTC7 after the North tower collapse. I've seen pictures of the SW corner of it that had huge chunks taken out about seven floors high IIRC, and there is one video on the internet that shows the top of the south face before it was obscured by smoke -- and there was an enormous hole visible right below the top of the building. Those images and the eyewitness accounts of firemen describing the rest of the south face have convinced me more than any alternative explanation.
    You mean like this one, which shows Building 7 in flames but still standing, with people nearby commenting that the building had sustained extensive damage and was likely to collapse at some point that day?

    Remarkable that whomever decided to pull the string on Building 7 had the foresight to set fires throughout the building before detonating whatever explosives had been set for the purpose of demolishing the building. Truly remarkable choreography.

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    oh god so now my eyes are lying to me too?
    "the common sense explanation"
    heres one for your common sense explanation
    Why was all the remains shipped off and recycled before any true investigation could be done....
    Please diclose your expertise in these matters. I'd like to know that your eyes know what to look for.

    Common sense from a demolitions expert is one thing. Common sense from a Sbarro employee is quite another.

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    The picture of the damage to the corner is on page 17 of the NIST report.

    http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%...se%20Final.pdf

    And here's the video showing some of the damage to the south end of the building.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51FIPMlrFf4

    There's also a clip of Aaron Brown of CNN saying WTC7 "has either collapsed or is collapsing" and he turns around to see WTC7 still standing. No cut from the live feed, just a simple clarification saying it is on fire and in danger of collapsing, obviously given to him by his producer or whoever else might be talking into his earpiece.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LetB0z8_o

    And when WTC7 did collapse, Ashley Banfield was in the street north of the site and Brian Williams told her to get out of there then said "What we have been fearing all afternoon has apparently happened." and that they had been watching WTC7 all day.

    http://msnbc.com/modules/interactive..._010911&type=v

    Why would they be watching it all day and fearing its collapse?

    Because someone told them it could collapse.

    Is there another way to interpret these that makes more sense than what I have said?
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 04-10-2007 at 12:45 PM.

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    Okay, I am convinced. The towers were brought down by the
    US Government and the Pentagon was also destroyed by the
    US Government and the hole in PA was created by the US
    Government. I guess we can look forward to seeing all those
    passengers back in no time at all. All safe and sound. Damn
    Bush, he will do anything, right boutons? I am quite sure
    we will have a whistle blower pop up at any minute with all
    the details.

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    Oh, and I forgot, did you know we really didn't go to the moon.
    It was all staged on a Hollywood set. I read that somewhere and
    I just know it is true.

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    It's funny how the conspiracy cacophony becomes silent when faced with irrefutable fact.

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    9-11 was not a government conspiracy. The fact that people actually took time and resource to DISprove this assertion is depressing.

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    I think after you smoke weed the conspiracy theory makes sense.

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    Okay, I am convinced. The towers were brought down by the
    US Government and the Pentagon was also destroyed by the
    US Government and the hole in PA was created by the US
    Government. I guess we can look forward to seeing all those
    passengers back in no time at all. All safe and sound. Damn
    Bush, he will do anything, right boutons? I am quite sure
    we will have a whistle blower pop up at any minute with all
    the details.
    how did you become convinced of that?

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    ^/mookie
    It's funny how the conspiracy cacophony becomes silent when faced with irrefutable fact.
    what facts?

    it was 4 oclock in the morning

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    So why did the building owner want the planes to hit the towers with people in them if he was going to reap huge insurance rewards either way?

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    these questions were answered with cacophony

    how many news stories have you seen in last couple of years about september 11th?, not about the firemens wifes, the heroes of ladder 4765, charlie sheen questioning september 11th, rudy gulianis leadership on sep 11th, the 911 commission report (gospel)

    actual stories about the planes hitting, the structure, the collapse, the hijackers, the hijackers history, the fires

    zero to 1?



    sa express?

    zero to 1?



    THIS WAS THE WORST DAY IN AMERICAN HISTORY, one of the worst crimes of all time

    and when do ever hear about any of things?????????????

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    I never said one thing about the goddam building owner

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    So if it's not about Bush/Neocons and if it's not about the owner, what's it about?

    And I don't know WTF you're talking about with regards to news stories. 9/11 do entaries are played and replayed ad nauseum on cable, and every year in September there's a new prime time special or two.

    Maybe no one answered because those questions are ludicrous to anyone who has watched television in the last 5 years.

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    I don't get the E-N, but there are always stories and do entaries about 9/11 on tv, especially around the aniiversaries. This is how historical events are handled.

    What level of news coverage do you expect for an event that happened over five years ago?

    Do you think every news agency and media outlet in the US is conciously ignoring stories that should be made public? Or could it be that nothing deemed important by the 9/11 "truth" movement hasn't passed even a preliminary journalistic smell test.

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    its about that nobody knows what the happened, and the investigation, especially publicaly, was a complete joke, no rational person can be satisfied with the 911 commission report




    and what 911 cable do entaries are you talking about??????
    do you think our newspapers and news networks have better stories than 911 to report on? more important stories?




    compare

    heroes of ladder 489 vs actual terrorism

    rudy guliani vs actual terrorism

    rosie odonnell vs actual terrorism

    charlie sheen vs actual terrorism





    i want to know why I never hear anything about the worst crime in american history

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    i want to know why I never hear anything about the worst crime in american history
    Because you don't have a television?

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    What level of news coverage do you expect for an event that happened over five years ago?
    hundreds and hundreds % more than i get now

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    what tv are you talking about spurm?

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    to catch a predator or anna nicole?

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    its about that nobody knows what the happened, and the investigation, especially publicaly, was a complete joke, no rational person can be satisfied with the 911 commission report
    What specifically are you talking about?
    and what 911 cable do entaries are you talking about

    compare

    heroes of ladder 489 vs actual terrorism

    rudy guliani vs actual terrorism

    rosie odonnell vs actual terrorism

    charlie sheen vs actual terrorism





    i want to know why I never hear anything about the worst crime in american history
    Because you don't have cable? I don't know how you are missing all these shows about actual terrorism. Entire nights are dedicated to it with a fair amount of frequency. Discovery/Times, A&E, the History Channel and the news channels all show them.

    Again, I have to ask how often you need to be hearing about it in the regular newscasts since it's over five years old.

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    to catch a predator or anna nicole?
    Change the channel from CNN to Discovery or the History Channel or National Geographic or any of those other networks some time.

    I couldn't possibly list every cable do entary aired on 9/11, but this one was good: http://www.amazon.com/National-Geogr.../dp/B000FUF6QI

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    how did you become convinced of that?
    By the compelling and overwhelming evidence present
    on this forum. The very brilliance of the evidence
    presented. Besides everyone knows the Government
    lies about everything.

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    alright watch cable as much as you can then whenever you see a 911 do entary not about guliani, the heroes of ladder 44, pm me, email me, spam the forum.


    it might take a while because it happened 5 years ago

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