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what about Magic,Jordan,Bird,Dr J.............?
Bowen was on Nash more than anyone else. I'm hardly giving Parker credit for giving spot duty on Nash. Ditto with Barbosa. And Parker did do a good job on Rip Hamilton. Thats about the only thing he could hang his hat on since the rest of his game was garbage in that series. By Game 5 of the Finals Parker's PG duties had been giving to Ginobili and Barry because he couldn't take the heat similar to the 2003 Finals.
If that's all it takes then you're an idiot.Asked and answered. See above.
Why the would anyone mention Tony Parker in Game 7 of the 2005 Finals? Is that supposed to support your dumbass argument? 8 points (3-11 shooting), 3 assists and a complete disappearing act in the 4th qtr with the championship on the line is supposed to be coming through in a Game 7? Are your standards that low? I don't even remember Parker's name being mentioned in that game. That's how invisible he was. I think the Spurs actually had to hide him on offense. If he wasn't bricking jumpshots or free throws he was turning the ball over.I'd have figured game seven of the finals and last night's game was a big stage, but maybe I'm wrong. Parker has played in more big games by his age than almost any player in NBA history, so you have a ton of bad games to choose from. You'd be better off looking at the games this season if you'd like to be objective (but we all know you wouldn't).
There's nothing hypothetical about it. I watch Tony Parker quite a bit and I KNOW he couldn't carry a team for an entire season. His court vision and jumpshot are still a work in progress. And since he plays the majority of his time with Duncan on the floor he'll rarely ever see a doublteam. As long as Tim Duncan is on that team Tony Parker isn't carrying a damn thing. Duncan makes this team go just like Nash makes the Suns go. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.Right. Now that you admit that it's a completely fictional argument that's impossible to refute because the results of it exist only inside your little head, you can go look up "hypothetical".
Parker barely handled Marion because for much of this series with Marion on him he could hardly get anything going and shot the ball like crap.Marion is an all star, and his size helped him. Saying that Parker "barely" handled him still means that Parker "handled" him. Don't you read your own posts?
Bull lol. Bruce Bowen (with 2 help defenders waiting) were the one giving Nash fits and frustrating him. It sure as wasn't Tony Parker. And I'll conclude this by laughing at your pathetic usage of the dumbass phrase "Pwn3d." What are you, 12?And since the premier defender that Nash had problems with through much of this series was Tony Parker, I believe I will conclude by saying:
More? Your stupid ass never gave anything in the first place. Now go watch Game 7 of the 2005 Finals and feel stupidYou want some more, ?
We were talking about the last ten years. That leaves Magic, Bird and Dr. J out.
OK,But jordan?
I would put Pippen and Grant Hill on that list before Nash.
I agree.
You have to put in Jordan, since we believe he was the greatest player of all time and he was a finals mvp in 98 (and 97 for that matter both of which are within the last 10 years).
Pippen was an amazing player. So versatile, great ball handler, slasher, passer, could jump out of the gym and an amazing defensive player.
Pippen was way better than Nash has been or ever will be.
Grant Hill is questionable in my opinion because of his injury problems.
true,too bad,He couldīve been in the all time top 50 or 60 if it wasnt for the foot injuries.
Timmy and Kobe sure, Shaq perhaps, but Kidd? no.
definitely.
He had so much talent. That athleticism, versatility, smarts, and added a jump shot to his game.
He would have been a hofer for sure if not for the injuries.
Tim is the best player the NBA has seen since Jordan retired, more people should really start acknowledging that.
Nash was nearly an afterthought in Dallas. He's a product of Phoenix's system. Imagine the numbers Tony would put up in Phoenix.
Nash = grossly overrated
He's an all star, very good player, has come up clutch lately...but historically great?
D'Antoni said that because he's a sore sport fountain of ass tears. Thankfully his ass is dispatched now. Phoenix needs a different coach if they want to get over the hump.
Nash isn't even in the league of duncan and kobe. Duncan especially, he impacts the game on both ends something nash doesn't know a thing about.
In a twisted way I miss Suns trolls coming in here to take abuse. They'll be missed in a punching bag sort of way.
I think you could make a strong argument that Robert Horry is one of the top 10 players of the last ten years. Yeah, his stats don't make the argument, but consider the following:
* No one has more rings than Horry over the last ten years.
* No one is more clutch than Horry over the last ten years especially when it really matters.
* No matter what team he plays for, it always seems to win championships.
Without Horry, the Lakers most likely wouldn't have won in 2002 and the Spurs most likely wouldn't have won in 2005. No other player in the last ten years can claim to have been so instrumental to two different teams' championship success. That has to count for something imo.
P.S. It will be an absolute travesty if Horry doesn't get into the Hall of Fame.
How is shaq just a perhaps?????
I'll probably give you Shaq, Kobe, and TD, but not a chance in with Kidd. Phoenix had him for quite a while before Nash, and as a huge Phoenix fan, Kidd is not nearly at the level of Nash. Nash makes everyone around him better, Kidd does not even compare as far as that goes, although he does a lot of things pretty damn well.
Yes but how many les does Horry have if he is not playing with the likes of Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan and Kobe? He is maybe the best role player of all time but not a hall of famer.
Parker can't even hold Nash's jockstrap. Some of you are so damn dillusional about some of the Spurs players. The ONLY one even in the same league as Nash as far as great players is Duncan. It has shown for quite a few years now. Nash is far and away the best PG in the league, and easily one of the best ever.
I would take kidd parker billups and starbury (as much as I hate him) all before nash.
I will grant you that Nash is the best PG in the league but he is not anywhere in Tim Duncans neighborhood. Tim effects every facet of the game, Nash only does it on offense.
Well of course they wouldn't take Nash over Parker if it was for the next 8 years. But EVERY gm in the league would take Nash over Parker right now, and over every other pg in the league right now for that matter.
And you have qualified yourself as a moron for that statement. Nash blows each one of them away. 2 of them played in Phoenix, and neither did a damn thing there. See my previous posts regarding Parker, and while Billups is good, nowhere near the level of shooter, team leader, playmaker and distributor of Nash.
Kidd's a threat to post a triple-double every night and a better defender than Nash. To compare Kidd's run in Phoenix to Nash's isn't realistic considering Nash has a much better corps surrounding him than Kidd had.
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