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Ask Pop, he's the one still putting him in the fourth. BTW does Pop = Whott?
No, that's not the way I remember the discussion. It would be nice if sombody could retrieve the thread.
must be a horrible place. No way I want you, Chump, to end there.
Ask Pop, he's the one still putting him in the fourth. BTW does Pop = Whott?
It's real ing simple...you don't judge Horry by stats, especially regular season stats, something every single Horry detractor in this thread has done. Every body in the NBA, except the dimwits I am arguing with here and now, understand this simple ing fact! You morons!
That is the number 1 rule with him....and those that do so have been made to pay for it time and time again. Fools! How hard is it to recall some of the recent playoff series and some of our historical series.
Don't judge him by his stats.
Even the usually erstwhile poster Solid D has made this mistake..he cited Horry's numbers last season in the LA series...
I already mentioned that the first big last second playoff winner of Horry's career...it came against our own Spurs...it was the only basket he made in that entire game....but it stole momentum from us on our own home court in the waning seconds and was probably the main reason we couldn't come back to win what was a much closer series than most people remember.
I'm not saying he deserves beaucoup minutes...come to think of it...I was ing about Malik's lack of minutes last season, saying he wasn't getting enough PT to sharpen his skills...
But there's a reason Horry has 5 rings...there's a reason he's got more rings than any of the Superstars he played with...there is a reason he's got rings without them that they don't have without him...and even if he has played for great teams...don't get lost on the fact that he wanted to play for the Spurs at this time...the man is no fool...if you still doubt is IQ realize that at least.
Horry has earned the right to be trusted in crucial moments of games in the course of his career...and it's our loss if we fail to do so.
I love Malik, I defend him relentlessly on this board, and I've got absolutely no problems with Malik getting the lionshare of the minutes...especially in the regular season...but I'd much rather have Horry on the court in the decisive moments...and as long as he is willing to play for the minimum it is absolutely incredibly ing stupid to try and run him off.
Keep judging him by that Laker series...just remember...they knew him better than anyone...regardless of how hated the Lakers and Jackson are here...it's a huge insult and underestimation of their abilities to think they wouldn't know to protect against the Horry effect....they figured out how to neutralize Duncan and Robinson when they were both relatively healthy...of course they can game plan to prevent Horry from killing them....
Horry wasn't the guy choking wide open shots in that series...he was the one being defended and played out of position on offense and defense....
And his best game was the one where our backs were against the wall.....04 didn't beat him...
Last edited by whottt; 11-29-2004 at 10:18 PM.
Ok, don't play Horry unless it's for a last-second desperation three.
You got a deal.
He does more than just hit threes when it is crunch time...I swear you must not have ever watched the guy play for another team.
You reveal your ignorance with that comment...not that you do a good job of hiding it anyway...
But anyway...that comment shows you to be getting ever so slightly more intelligent...even if it is being done with you being dragged kicking and screaming along the way.
Then play him in every second of crunch time, even if Malik is having a great game.
What exactly do you want?
Having Horry in to shoot a desperation three is common sense. Hootie could even tell that by looking at the STATS!
smeagol, I want to thank you for your honest comments...I am about 100% certain that you probably don't agree with my comments on Scola...but it's good to see that you don't let a difference of opinion keep you from being honest...that's called credibility. Hopefully some of it will rub off on Chump. You have my respect as a poster on this board. And you have credibility with me...for what it's worth.
Does anyone attempt to cover their own ass on being wrong as well as Chump? There is no length he won't go to...he has no shame. Has got to be a lawyer.
What did he just say to rationalize his all time ass kicking in the Manu Vs Hedo debate?
Something like...if Manu wasn't Manu and if Hedo wasn't Hedo, Hedo might be the better player?
Typical dump...Even N.Cali...the instigator of the Manu Hedo conflict, just came out and admitted he was wrong...while Chump is still living in denial.
Chump, if you had balls you'd be a man...and you might even have some credibility in this argument.
I like Horry but I don't want him to be the first Big man of the bench. That should Malik Rose especially the way he is playing right now.
In crunch time Horry has done nothing dating to the Lakers series and I rather have Malik in there.
I said if Hedo plays to his potential. He became a real defender last year and is averaging exactly the same ppg as Manu this year. Can he continue to develop until he reaces his full potential? Probably not, given the fact he doesn't give a . The Spurs absolutely made the right decision when it came down to keeping Manu or Hedo, and there's no way Hedo was worth the contract he got. I have said as much 100 times over and this Hoot still thinks Shane Heal had mad NBA game.
Who(ttt)'s in denial?
Look, all this comes down to Hootie's fetish for the guy he thinks can make the big play in crunch time. He thought Shane Heal could do it and he still thinks Horry can, which may or may not be true as no one can really remember the last time it happened. That's all well and good, but the simple reality of the NBA is that regular rotation players get hurt, and Spurs not named Duncan are fallable players who get benched when they suck. Backups on this team need to be ready and able to play extended minutes when the call does come. THAT is why guys like LJ are concerned that Horry is being outboarded this year by the likes of such Rodmanesque board hogs like Junior Harrington, Erick Strickland and the pariah Hedo. It's also why we're concerned he's currently the worst defender of all our bigs by far.
None of our bigs save Duncan are consistently great. That Horry has been consistently bad is cause for concern no matter what he did in the past. Thank God Rose's head is out of his ass more often than not this year.
Last edited by ChumpDumper; 11-29-2004 at 11:15 PM.
Whottt go suck Horry's penis. Horry hasn't been clutch for 2 years. He's declining. You can see it in his stats and clutchness. Sure he can hit the open three and 'maybe' guard some long three's but, he's not what he used to be. He's a good veteran with experience and knows how to win but he hasn't been able to do that in the past 2 years.
Whottt, I know you think Robert Horry can still contribute those special little things that makes a team tick and also knock down that ultimate shot at that moment when all others have discounted him. I agree that he knows how to play and has tremendous experience but his execution is starting to fade.
I think the ideal scenario for you and all of us would be for Robert to contribute positively, help win another ring, then gradually move down the bench at minimum money, replacing Mass or Marks, and make way for a younger, more aggressive "big" who can contribute with passing, screen-setting, scoring, rebounding, defense, energy and spirit, some physicality, in 15-18 minutes of bench support.
and then Robert retires with another ring and enters another type of ring...
with the Undertaker in the WWE!!! True Whottt Bliss will have then been achieved.
Nice.
Um the Undertaker sucks ass and is a seflish piece of crap that refuses to job to other wrestlers or put them over in anyway..I won't pay a plug nickel to watch the Undertaker..and that's Paul Wight AKA "the big show" in that pic by the way, a true class act and renassiance man of pro wrestling...a very intelligent, talented, and articulate guy who just happens to weigh about 400 pounds is 6'10 and makes other wreslters a third of his size look like they are masters of the ring.......not the piece of biker trash that the UT is.
It's funny that you guys diss wrestling fans but are so ingorant that many of these players that you guys are fans of are also wrestling fans...a lot of NBA players are wrestling fans...Not just Malone and Rodman...
Didn't you guys notice the Pistons wearing authentic WWE replica le belts at their ring ceremony?
Yeah, the same belt Chris Benoit wore is one the Pistons can only buy a copy of, and actually wear in the moment of greatest professional honor in their careers......Keep laughing.
And there is tremendous irony of San Antonians laughing...San Antonio has produced more pro-wrestlers than just about any other city.
That was Stone Cold Steve Austin in the Lakers lockerroom as they celebrated bouncing our ass from the playoffs...Shawn Michaels is a legendary Spurfan...
Keep laughing...
We will.
We will.
Now post the pic with you wearing yours.
The only one I have is the one where I am wearing it after mounting you mama. Ask her where it is.
She's dead.
That's pretty sick, but not wholly unexpected from you.
Join her.
So you can violate my corpse too, sickie?
What ever flips your switch...but I'm getting pretty sick of you having relatives or friends that get in the way of my talking ...either you need to start being less sensitive or you need to realize just who it is you are arguing with.
Man this debate got nasty really fast.
I'm not siding with Whottt on this issue becuase I would like to see Scola with the Spurs uniform. Nevertheless, Horry should not be cut off just yet. He should play for the minimum until its no longer worth it.
But Chump, on the Manu vs. Hedo debate, all you have to say is "I was wrong". That about Hedo playing to his potential is just that: .
It's like me saying: If Manu scored 25 ppg and didn't turn the ball that many times, he would be a better player than Hedo.
Manu>>>>>>Hedo and there is no question about it.
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