Free Agent: Andres Nocioni

[Ocotillo]

Any chance to unload Elson if a deal were attempted with Chicago?

[mountainballer]

3. It'll be interesting for Spurs, this year we were called a Dirty team, with Chapu we could be called a Super dirty team.

no, they would call us the maniacs.

I would love to see Chapu in a Spurs uniform. (I also would love to see Scola with us).
the chance might not be great, but it is also not just a pipe dream.
people shouldn't forget, that in every S&T scenario the player (his agent) has quite some influence where he want's to be traded to.
and if the numbers are ok for Nocioni (a contract starting at 6.5-7 million?), he for sure would love to play alongside Manu and Oberto, have the best shot for winning a ring, especially since he knows he will find himself in a perfect situation at his position. (different to Bulls, where he plays behind Deng and will also see Thomas to cut into his minutes).
so, if he wants to come to SA, the chances are nice.
Bulls would find a package they might like: Scola, (we should consider that he will cost about half of of what Nocioni would cost them) Butler (Bulls will likely need to repleace 3 bigs, one of our 2007 picks?, future picks?, Barry.
not that bad IMO.
and what about Finley? he wins the ring this year and finishes his career in his hometown, where they can quite use some veteran leadership?

[Kamnik]

IMO Spurs should do/trade anyone except the big three to get Nocioni

Parker,Ginobili,Nocioni,Duncan,Oberto would be sick to have as a core for the playoffs

[WalterBenitez]

IMO Spurs should do/trade anyone except the big three to get Nocioni

Parker,Ginobili,Nocioni,Duncan,Oberto would be sick to have as a core for the playoffs

yeah send those Mavs again!!!!

[EvenFlow]

Say if Durant was chosen first by Por. couldn't the Spurs just flat out sign Travis Outlaw. He's limited, but he's a 6'9 athlete.

[Darkwaters]

Say if Durant was chosen first by Por. couldn't the Spurs just flat out sign Travis Outlaw. He's limited, but he's a 6'9 athlete.

The big "IF" is the drafting of Durant. The Blazers were reported as talking to the Wizards today...presumably about Caron Butler.

Regardless, Outlaw has been discussed in length as a possible solution. In fact, he makes a lot of sense. But he'd still be a journeyman while Nocioni would be able to step in immediately and produce.

[EvenFlow]

Well if Outlaw is available then he'd be a cut rate option I wouldn't mind having. A frontline consisting of guys no smaller than 6'9 can make a world of difference on the boards. He'd be a journeyman but does have nba experience under his belt anyway, and the Spurs have won even with guys who didn't have best bball a en (SJax-03, Nazr-05, Elson-07??).

[El_Mago]

Outlaw should be available.

I also like Udoka on the Portland team.

Khyrapa should also be available.

There are a lot of less talented wings that should be available this summer, and those are the ones I see the Spurs pursuing....not Chapu.

Quite frankly, they just can not afford Chapu straight up, and they don't have the pieces Chicago is probably looking for.

[Mr. Body]

Agree, El Mago, with all of what you said. Spurs will need to comb the dunes for a semi-precious stone. Nocioni is out of range, but an Udoka might be fine for a little while. If Portland actually takes Durant that might spring Outlaw free, but I don't think he'll be available.

[hendrix]

Seeing all the success the argentinians had in the NBA, it makes you wonder if the argentine National Team could win an NBA le.
Some time ago (after the Olympics) when everybody was blaming the refs for the "Dream Team" debacle and only Ginobili was making noise there, NO ONE accepted the fact that USA was simply outplayed by the other teams (The excuses were that you lost because of a lack of commitment, bad calls, the weather, bla, bla...).

Now... let's say Ginobili, Nocioni, Scola, Oberto.... Herrmann off the bench... add a PG to the list (I still like Sanchez playmaking abilities, most of you don't, i know...) and we have a heck of NBA team.

[FromWayDowntown]

Now... let's say Ginobili, Nocioni, Scola, Oberto.... Herrmann off the bench... add a PG to the list (I still like Sanchez playmaking abilities, most of you don't, i know...) and we have a heck of NBA team.

Particularly if you could trade for Tim Duncan.

[hendrix]

I did not mean the Spurs... maybe you dream about it?

[FromWayDowntown]

I did not mean the Spurs... maybe you dream about it?

I didn't either. But unless you have a guy like Tim on a team like that, the chances aren't very good for winning the NBA championship. I think the ARG national team would be compe ive at the high end of the NBA, but I don't think it would win les -- unless it traded for a guy like Tim Duncan.

[coopdogg3]

I'm actually ok with just keeping Vaughn. 1 more year with our shooting-coach guru should help his J a bit more, and he's (relatively) cheap. Knows the plays, players, system, etc. His defense is fine. Unless there's a clear upgrade, I say just keep Vaughn.

[Mr. Body]

People aren't saying get rid of Vaughn. People are saying get a young prospect so Vaughn can go back to 3rd string where he belongs.

[coopdogg3]

Hater is certainly saying that we should get rid of Vaughn. Sorry, I got to the end of page 1, thought that was the end, then realized my comment was a tad off-base with where the conversation was heading.

[Mr. Body]

Oh, okay, I lost track too.

Most of the sane say we should keep Vaughn.

[coopdogg3]

Oh, okay, I lost track too.

Most of the sane say we should keep Vaughn.

Good to know I'm not the only one.

[michaelwcho]

Vaughn sucks, he is not even a third string PG.

good solid PGs are hard to come by. my point is that they should make it a priority to get a solid backup PG

Not really, it's a lot easier to find a good small man than a good big man. Good small men are all over the place.

[Big P]

Portland is not going to take Durant, period.

Nocioni is probably out of our reach, our only hope is that Chicago is interested in Scola.

Oultaw is a restricted FA, IMO he is not worth the whole MLE, I would rather give the whole MLE to Pietrus, & if Outlaw is not going to get a MLE type offer, I see Portland matching any offer, just for the simple fact, they will get him on the cheap & he will be a trading asset to them in the future.

If Noc & Pietrus aren't possible, I would like to see the Spurs offer something for Duhon & Khrypa, but I would offer Scola for those two, something like Butler, Beno or a S&T of Bonner or Ely.

[violentkitten]

we give you rc you give us durant.

[Marcus Bryant]

Who would've thought NY was going to let Butler walk last summer? Sure, Nocioni is more talented, but just because a player is a restricted FA that doesn't necessarily mean his team will want him back. Nocioni holds some leverage as in any S&T he must agree to it. Chicago may opt to go with the younger swings and the Spurs can put a package of picks + Scola or whoever to satisfy their lust for future cheap talent.

[Pancake Taster]

What really breaks my heart is that Vince vaughn is such a great kisser..

[timvp]

Seeing all the success the argentinians had in the NBA, it makes you wonder if the argentine National Team could win an NBA le.

They wouldn't be championship material but might make the playoffs.

[ducks]

They wouldn't be championship material but might make the playoffs.

in the east or west