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ludden is a tool, just trying to sale a paper with some bs
It's not even a contract you need to dump. I didn't even realize his third year is a team option.
ludden is a tool, just trying to sale a paper with some bs
Yeah cause personality makes the player!!! LOOK AT DUNCAN!!Unlike Butler, who can barely move, whose salary qualifies as a tax write off and whose personality makes Big Dog Robinson look bubbly.
barely move?
You obviously didn't watch the games vs Memphis and Denver very well.
he moved quite well, and looked quite good.
I like Elson, but even Im ready to get rid of him if it means more minutes for Butler.
Just my opinion but, any steal or keeper value gets thrown out the window when 90% of the time when he's on the floor he's out of place defensively, missing rotations or getting yelled at by his teammates.
But hey, he runs fast and is awesome at rebounding when absolutely no one is near him.
FWIW
a possible destination would be Philly.
They have 3 first rounders: 12, 21, and 30 as well as pick number 38 in the second.
And since Larry Brown is still there . . . maybe there's a chance for a move up. Spurs would have to take back salary I suppose. Kevin Ollie only has one year left on his deal at 3.4, so maybe something could happen.
ummm..... butler lost a load of weight, and even then, before he came here, i always heard he ran the floor pretty good for his size....... so just because a dude is fat doesn't mean he's a rasho type player that can't move for
dear god, you also described Samaki Walker....But hey, he runs fast and is awesome at rebounding when absolutely no one is near him.
WTF? You asked where he was getting his from, and I replied. Where in my post was I praising ludden?
oh, my response about how much i dislike ludden wasn't directed at you lol sorry about that......... but yeah, i can't stand ludden for some reason lol
without reading the thread, this doesnt make sense, the money just doesnt add up and it doesnt help the Spurs any... they would just be taking a step to the left/right rather thatn back/forward.
I like Ludden, but hes got some stupid hate for Jackie Butler. He has all year.
IMO, Butler has worked too hard, and shown too much for the Spurs to think hes a headcase.
IMO hes the perfect compliment to Duncan, or perfect big to come off the bench for Duncan.
Good low post scorer, good rebounder.
God im jacked to see him get serious minutes next year.
Philadelphia could use both Butler and Udrih. Depending on how much say Larry Brown has (as consultant), he's liked Butler in the past. They have a lot of roster spots opening up this summer and, as stated above, four draft picks. They don't need four rookies.
After all the bad press Butler got last year, he probably has negative value. For example, 33 and Butler probably gets you a pick in the 40's.
That said, he makes so little and his contract expires after this season, so there's no reason to get rid of him. I'd rather the Spurs buy him out (which they could probably do for close to $1.2-1.5M) than waste a second round pick in some form of salary dumping.
Besides, that Cavs trade exception has Beno's name all over it. If the Spurs get a point guard in the draft, Beno to the Cavs for a future second round pick makes too much sense not to happen.
apparently, Philly already offered mid-season something for Butler, only the Spurs didn't like it. Had the Spurs giving up a pick of all things.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...h.1817803.html
2-22-07 . . .
The Spurs also continue to explore trade opportunities for Jackie Butler.
Philadelphia executive Larry Brown, who coached Butler in New York last season and recommended him to the Spurs, has again shown interest in the young center. The 76ers seemed willing to do a trade if they also could get a draft pick, but the Spurs didn't like the contract Philadelphia was offering (possibly Kevin Ollie's) in return.
I don't know why teams keep wanting to get Butler + a pick for junk.
Then they were trying to get Scola for a second round pick.
Why are teams trying to the Spurs like a ?
I think the Spurs would consider moving Butler (and Beno and Elson and Barry and ...) but I just don't think that this particular trade makes any sense unless they love Collins for some reason.
Jarron Collins is about a third as good as Francisco Elson.
With Oberto cementing his spot in the starting lineup and options like Mahinmi and Scola out there, I can see some scenarios where it'd make sense to trade Butler. However, a trade should result in an extra roster spot for the Spurs or at least bring back a contract as small or smaller than Butler's.
I agree. Butler is overpaid for an IR guy but he doesn't make enough to give up value to trade him. They can cut him next year if need be.
It makes no sense at all for Spurs.
My guess : it's a rumor created by a Jazz fan after hearing the jazz owner interview on the radio.
On some website like hoopshype, Butler third year isn't a team option. I guess that he has imagined this fantasy trade without knowing that Butler third year was a team option.
damn kori!
hes all right, but we need MARCUS CAMBY, i would trade for him or sign him and trade what we need to to get camby.
collins sucks
So the Spurs are going to trade a guy for someone that the Jazz would love to get off their payroll, that totally sucks and was geeting no burn in the playoffs, that is more expensive than the Spurs traded player plus the Spurs have to throw in a high second round pick to accomplish all this? Either Jerry Sloan wrote this piece or the Spurs needed Presti a lot more than we think?
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