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that makes more sense. thank you.
I think that it's both of our first rounders and ATL's next year.
that makes more sense. thank you.
KG & Marion scares me alot more than KG & Amare did.
Yeah, without Marion, you'd have to put Nash on a good perimeter player in most cases. Nash just doesn't have the athleticism to stay with those guys, and I'd be much happier if we can keep him on the Bruce Bowens of the world.
Suns are a mess if that trade goes through. To make salaries match they'll either be packaging Banks and Jones, which I'd love, or more than likely, Thomas, which mean they trade both their centers. They also will still be in CAP , and won't have a high enough pick to grab an immediate impact center.
I like have the option of Marion on Parker, Bell on Manu and Garnett on Duncan, but I'd like it much better if Thomas and Diaw were available off the bench. Not sure that's going to be the case.
Thanks to everyone who answered my question, I could have just looked it up myself. But hey, why leave SpursTalk.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
Even if the Wolves are trying to rebuild, I fail to see why they would accept so LITTLE (2 scrubs and a couple draft picks????) for a franchise player they will not ever see again in Kevin McHale's lifetime.
Trading him to the Lakers for Bynum and Odom would make more sense, and even that seems like too little. If this deal goes down, it will be the biggest disaster for any NBA franchise in NBA history. At least the Lakers got SOMETHING when they traded Shaq. The TWolves will be getting raped on this deal.
Because they take Al Horford with the number 3 pick, who is going to be a freakin monster in the league. (Plus they get rid of KG and his salary)
Atlanta would look great too.
PG - Banks
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Josh Smith
PF - Marvin Williams
C - Amare
Atlanta would be a playoff team no doubt. Athleticism out the ass. They could outrun Phoenix. Not a lick of basketball IQ tho.
so they trade and all nba 1st team center for an all nba 2nd team power forward?
I would think that Atlanta would be sending Marvin Williams to Minny (who Minny is supposedly high on). But really that's not a big loss. That lineup would be great for a team like Atlanta that is struggling for popularity. It would be really exciting and generate alot of interest, not to mention a top four seed in the East.
If you're rebuilding, you want any combination of: 1. multiple 1st round picks, perferably some lottery, 2. instant CAP relief, or 3. young, rookie-scale players with big potential.
The Lakers deal didn't really offer any of that, unless you count Bynum as a potential All-Star. Odom is long-term and expensive, the pick being thrown in was #19 overall, so hardly worth being the ONLY pick, and Bynum has a limited ceiling because of some physical limitations (has small hands) and mental limitations (isn't exactly basketball smart).
However, there are issues with salaries matching as the Suns would be trading 20 million, the Timberwolves 22 million and the Hawks just 7 million in salary. They aren't that far under the CAP that they can get away with that.
Yeah, they are only receiving 12 million, but they'll need to throw in another four or five million to make things work for the other teams because as it stands, Minnesota is trading 22 and only receiving 15. That doesn't work.
The All NBA 2nd team power forward is also a much better player than that All NBA 1st team center.
Of all the teams we could send Amare to, why the are we sending him to Atlanta? We want Atlanta to be the worst team in the league this year, so we get a good pick in next year's draft.
Amare won it by default, Yao missed to many games.
And btw, what the are the Lakers doing trading for J O'Neal, thye really think that will get Kobe back?
Not if you're trading away that pick.
But that's not gonna get them a championship for at least 5 years.
I guess they are just officially throwing away the last decade, if this trade goes through. Seems kind of sad, but hey. Maybe they figure it's their best option.
Horford is a nice player, but he is not as good a player as KG.
I can't see him putting up the kind of numbers KG put up.
If it was for Stoudamire, I would understand it. Amare has youth and can get it done, on offense at least.
Horford is only about 6'10". And most players who are undersized power forwards aren't going to dominate the league. Brand is an exception.
Horford is smart, has pretty good handles, moves pretty well defending high pick and rolls for a big, and has some good low post moves.
But let's not make him out to be a future mvp of the league, like KG was.
A perenial 20-10 guy with 2.5 blocks or better per game.
Well at least it's time a franchise takes a chance. I'm tired of all these GMs just standing pat. We got to shake things up.
Did I miss something here? Since when is 6'10" undersized for a power forward? Amare is only 6'10".
6 '10 is a perfect height for a pf, and the guy is big and strong. Have you seen him play? He is a freaking monster, he could very well put up similar numbers to a guy like KG at some point, especially with his passing out of the post skills, he is going to be a good one
I think that he could be alot like Boozer (except taller).
I'd rather Atlanta take Horford and Acie Law....but I don't see how you can pass up a chance for Amare.
Amare puts asses in the seats. Not so much for Law and Horford. Plus, it's not like there's a huge difference in talent.
I think the Elton Brand comparison is a good one myself, except a lot taller as well. his jump shot almost looks like Brands
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