On ESPN News, there will be breaking news regarding a new trade proposal between the Celtics, Wolvs, and Suns right now!
This proposal is still in the works, but this is what it is thus far:
Suns: get KG
Celtics: get Marion
Wolves: get 5th pick in the draft
There will obviously be other players involved like Kurt Thomas and stuff...It really comes down to Marion signing an extensions with the Celtics. He has stated that he has no intention to resign. However, the Suns are persuading him to do it. So far, this move sucks for the Wolves I think!!!
Wolves get the Al Jefferson the #5 pick and Troy Hudson.
Celts get Shawn Marion and #7 pick.
Suns get KG.
Just kidding, I'm guessing but I'm probably not too far off.
The Wolves are not going to take the #5 pick only for KG. Not when the Mavs are offering a package centered around Howard. Minny wants a combination of promising young players, picks and expiring contracts. I only see one of those elements present.
I agree...if the Wolves dont get a player like Amare, I dont see this happening. It was just reported by Jim Gray...I also dont think Marion would resign in Boston, especially if Pierce goes....
Marion is not going to resign in Boston they can forget that. Suns had better face up to the fact that if they want KG Amare has got to go. Plus Marion for the 5th pick he is not worth that, not even close. Bowen kicks his ass every year in the playoffs. If Ainge wants to get fired he would do that deal and lose the 5th pick.
Bird, McHale and Ainge made a of a team but they are the all time worst GMs. Billy Knight should have played for the Celtics to complete the quartet.
Howard alone wont be enough. Croshere and Stack wont cut it either. Better add in Harris and possibly Ager or the Mavs wont come anywhere near close to improving their chances of landing KG. That deal still doesnt do wonders for the Mavs. You now have 2 stars who arent clutch and arent leaders. Plus KG would rather play with Nash than Dirk.
So they just said this depends on Marion signing an extension Ainge needs brain surgery. How is he worth giving up your 5th pick for? so you can keep Pierce happy. Pierce is not a big time player Danny, trade him for more picks you idiot.
Looks like #5, Ratliff and some other player like Al Jefferson.
Considering how much they want for a guy on the books next year for $25 mil, I'm not interested.
where is james jones in these talks? i'm not sure how a super talent that is supposed to net Phoenix a top-10 pick isn't in high demand during these trade talks.
can we please not give the Suns more ammo....f'ing idiots
from a poster on Dallas-Mavs.com
Phoenix Trades : Shawn Marion, Kurt Thomas, #24, Atlanta's 1st rounder,
Phoenix Recieves : Kevin Garnett
Boston Trades : Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, #5 pick, Minnesota's future first
Boston Receives : Shawn Marion
Minnesota Trades : Kevin Garnett
Minnesota Recieves : Theo Ratliff (exp), Kurt Thomas (exp), Sebastian Telfair (exp), Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, #5, #24, Atlanta's future 1st, Minnesota's future first
oh wow Boston. Ainge needs to be in fired if this goes down.
spurs still own suns
minny doesn't come out too well with that either. betting so much on the draft when those players usually take years to develop if ever is putting a lot in the air.
WOW there's no way that can be true. Boston would be absolutely in stupid to do that. Marion would never re-sign because that team would be 2x worse than it is right now.
Marion would be nuts to resign there. His best option if i was his agent i would tell him to say no play out your last year in Phoenix and then you can sign for probably the same money with a contender. This is a lousy deal for the Cletics and a dumb move on Marion's part if he agrees.
If the Suns do manage to acquire Garnett and don't get fleeced in the process (which hey, they're dealing with McHale and Ainge - there's no doubt they'll get the best of those dumb s).....the Mavericks MUST make a push for Kobe.
So Phoenix would give up Marion and Thomas for KG? Go ahead.
So basically our frontcourt would consist of Amare, KG, Boris Diaw, and.......Pat Burke? We're going to need more depth than that, Jesus.
Assuming that the Suns sign Grant Hill, would this be our new starting lineup?
Nash
Bell
Hill
Amare
Garnett
With Diaw, Barbosa, and James Jones (or the 8th pick) coming off the bench. I was hoping we'd be able to keep Kurt Thomas somehow, but if it means picking up KG...
He'd be much better off in Phoenix where everyone would know he cost them a shot at Garnett?
The trade talk actually includes Amare now...
Garnett talks now include Suns' Stoudemire and third team
By Chad Ford and Marc Stein
ESPN.com
There was a growing sentiment around the league Tuesday night that the Kevin Garnett sweepstakes are nearing a conclusion and that the Phoenix Suns are the most likely winners, with two trade scenarios emerging that could potentially land Garnett in the desert by draft night.
With the Los Angeles Lakers' attempts to construct a multi-team deal or a direct trade with the Minnesota Timberwolves collapsing, ESPN's Jim Gray reports that talk of a potential three-team trade that would involve Minnesota, Boston and Phoenix has been rekindled, in which the primary cost to the Suns would be All-Star forward Shawn Marion moving to the Celtics.
Yet an even bigger trade concept, ESPN.com has learned, was hatched Tuesday by the Wolves, in which Phoenix would likely be asked to trade away the player it has been trying not to trade, All-NBA center Amare Stoudemire, who would go to the Atlanta Hawks.
Either way, indications from various NBA front-office sources suggest that Garnett being moved in conjunction with Thursday's draft looks more likely than ever before, with the Suns -- identified by ESPN.com last week as KG's first choice for a new home -- in prime position to make the big score.
In the scenario reported by Gray, Garnett would go to Phoenix, Boston would land Marion and the Wolves would receive a package featuring the No. 5 overall pick in Thursday's draft along with undisclosed players from the Celtics and Suns.
The key stumbling block for Boston would be Marion's reluctance to play for the Celtics, which sources say was conveyed to both teams last week when the idea of a three-team trade involving these clubs was first made public. With Marion possessing the right to opt out of his contract after next season and become a free agent in July 2008, Boston would undoubtedly be seeking assurances from Marion's camp that he's interested in signing an extension with the Celtics, even though league rules technically would preclude such negotiations until after July 1 (and after the trade).
Another possible stumbling block: Minnesota, sources say, has been adamant that any trade with Boston would include Al Jefferson. The Celtics, in turn, are willing to part with Jefferson only if they're the team that gets Garnett. It remains to be seen if either side softens its stance in the final hours before the draft.
In the newer trade scenario, sources say, Minnesota is looking to acquire Atlanta's No. 3 and No. 11 picks in the draft along with several cap-friendly contracts from the Hawks and Suns. To participate, Atlanta wants Stoudemire from Phoenix.
Such a trade would hold significantly greater appeal to Minnesota than any Celtics' offer that didn't include Jefferson. The Hawks, meanwhile, would be able to reunite Stoudemire with ex-Suns teammate Joe Johnson and immediately field a promising big-and-small core to build around and make Atlanta compe ive, given the current state of the Eastern Conference.
The Suns, though, are understandably reluctant to part with Stoudemire after he made the All-NBA first team in what appears to be the most successful comeback from microfracture knee surgery that the NBA has ever witnessed.
The Lakers, meanwhile, haven't abandoned all hope of partnering Garnett with the increasingly frustrated Kobe Bryant just yet. Another concept in circulation Tuesday raised the possibility of a multi-team trade in which the Indiana Pacers' Jermaine O'Neal would go to Atlanta, with Lakers forward Lamar Odom and young center Andrew Bynum heading to the Pacers. That package, at worst, would send the No. 3 pick in the draft to Minnesota as the main payoff for Garnett.
But the Suns increasingly look like the favorites, given that Phoenix is Garnett's preferred destination if he has to leave the only NBA city he has ever known and with the Suns clearly possessing more trade assets. The Wolves are looking for a combination of high draft picks, top young talent and expiring contracts to provide cap relief. The Lakers don't have a draft pick higher than No. 19 to offer and Minnesota, sources say, is not interested in Odom because of the two years and nearly $28 million left on the lanky lefty's contract.
It's believed that the Suns will continue trying to keep Stoudemire out of any deal, but sources say that the athletically gifted 24-year-old is not untouchable -- not with the Wolves having finally made the philosophical commitment to end the Garnett Era after years of speculation and with Phoenix feeling as though there is no better player it could acquire to counter San Antonio's Tim Duncan, who is seen as the Suns' biggest obstacle to getting out of the Western Conference playoffs.
Sources say Minnesota, furthermore, clearly hopes to complete a Garnett trade before the draft begins in hopes of securing a pick in first half of the lottery to go with its own No. 7 selection. The fact that Wolves owner Glen Taylor left the country for China on Tuesday afternoon for his honeymoon doesn't appear to have slowed the Wolves down at all.
Yet it remains to be seen if the Hawks, who have been notoriously reluctant to make roster moves of any sort for months because of their uncertain ownership situation, will actually commit to join in on a trade of this magnitude.
In any case, it's a trade that, even without completion, has seemingly eclipsed one of the most anticipated drafts in years.
It always did, but it ain't gonna happen that way, if it happens at all.
...i was skeptical of anything really happening with KG, but it appears he really will be traded this off season, crazy. though, i can't imagine Amare not going somewhere if KG is traded.
as for Kobe.... , who the knows.
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