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i think it was stated in another reply but basketball is 5 on 5... jordan is the pinnacle but put him up against 5 (1 vs 5) no matter the nba team and jordan always gets his ass kicked. that's why it's 5 on 5.
So you're saying that Duncan has had better teammates than Jordan? Just so we're clear. That's what you are suggesting, right? I just want to make sure you are committed to that position before responding.
i think it was stated in another reply but basketball is 5 on 5... jordan is the pinnacle but put him up against 5 (1 vs 5) no matter the nba team and jordan always gets his ass kicked. that's why it's 5 on 5.
Tim is the Ultimate Team Player. The Spurs win on defense and Timmy is the cornerstone of that D. He commands a huge amount of attention on offense opening up all sorts of shots for other players. He's a guy who doesn't need to score a lot of points to make a huge impact
I would take him over anyone right now. In their primes I would take Shaq.
Tim is a winner and probably should be considered the best player in the last decade.In the past decade = the last 10 seasons (1998-2007)Are you so quick to forget that Jordan played in the past decade?
Jordan played in three of those seasons (1998, 2002, 2003), won a championship and a Finals MVP during that stretch.
Duncan played in all ten of those seasons, won four championships, three Finals MVPs, and two league MVPs.
Shaq played in all ten of those seasons, won four championships, three Finals MVPs, and a league MVP.
Jordan is one of the two best players of all time, but there is no question that Duncan and Shaq have accomplished much more than Jordan did during this last decade.
No, you just said that Duncan was the best player in the past decade. That would be putting him over Jordan and making him the best player of all time. Is that what you are trying to say?
what the dont you understand about tim being the best player of the last decade? rofl
If you look at it in terms of who accomplished the most in the past decade, then sure because Jordan retired back in 98. But Jordan is still the best basketball player to step on an NBA court in the past 10 years.
What the don't you understand about that?
Jordan unretired and played two more seasons, 2002 and 2003.
No one is disputing Jordan's status historical here - but who has been the best player over the period covering the last ten seasons? Why is this so goddamn difficult for you?
Only a jackass would use this angle to discredit Duncan.
Nothing is "goddam difficult" about it, Jordan is the best player to step on an NBA court in the past decade. Period. If the original poster would have been more specific and said "Duncan has accomplished more in the past decade than any other player" then there would be no confusion. Make sense, Jackass?
I think the real problem lies in the fact that some people need to sit back and chill and quit getting so worked up and butthurt over nothing. It wasn't like I came in here trolling, just pointing out that what he said was incorrect.
How the do you measure the best of anything? By accomplishments. Therefore, when someone makes a statement that Tim Duncan has been the best player of the decade, that person is inherently stating that Duncan is the most accomplished player during that time.
If I said that Cliff Robinson was the best player of the past decade, I would rightfully get laughed off the board for that. Why? Well, Cliff Robinson hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy during that time. An extreme example, but Jordan's accomplishments during the past decade are less substantial than Duncan's. That is a fact.
If I said that the Spurs were the best team of the past decade, would you counter by saying that the Boston Celtics have won sixteen championships? After all, the Celtics are still in the NBA!
Go play in a minefield.
Smartass, according to your logic Robert Horry is the best player in the past decade. If you want to be a smartass, I can play that game too. But then we would both be losers. So in the words of Fillmoe, kill yourself.
You set this standard, not me. You see, before you came along, we understood what was meant by "the best player of the past ten years". Now you've tried to come along and confuse the issue with a cheap lawyer's trick. All I did was to turn your trick against you; now you want to call it being a smartass. Do what you want, but anyone reading this thread will understand clearly which one of us is the imbecile.Smartass, according to your logic Robert Horry is the best player in the past decade. If you want to be a smartass, I can play that game too. But then we would both be losers. So in the words of Fillmoe, kill yourself.
Good day.
I guess you're just too smart for my dirty little tricks huh? No hard feelings, I just like to stir the pot a little sometimes.
Oh, and Jordan>Duncan
Yeah, I'm sure we can all agree Manu is the most important component of the Spurs last three les.
Except for the 2004 Pistons, EVERY team that has won a championship since Jordan retired has had Tim Duncan or Shaq on it. That pretty much sums it up. Going back to 1991, teams led by Jordan, Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan have won every championship except 2004. So all the fans of Nash and Dirk (who have never won anything) should keep that in mind.
Jordan is a top 2 player in NBA history so I don't see the point comparing him with Duncan.
Jordan > Duncan is probably true but Duncan is still the best player of his era and has the les to prove it. Is he better than Shaq? I don't know and don't really care.
Actually the exact player ranking is meaningless... Duncan is a top tier player and it is all that matters.
All the comparisons between players skills regardless of their whole skillset and position are stupid.
Duncan is not the playmaker Nash is like saying Nash is... so??? Nash > Duncan?
Nash is not the shotblocker Duncan is
Duncan is not the 3pt shooter ray Allen is
Shaq is not the FT shooter Dirk is
... endless
None is the dunker James White is... he is probably a top 5 player.
The other argument about GM picking players is biased by the player age as discussed but also by marketing issue. If I want my team to make money, I would probably pick Kobe or Lebron over any other player.
This would work, too. If Duncan had turned out to be Adonal Foyle I'd still be a Spurs fan.
Are you talking when he was with the Wiz, because I am talking about after Jordans era with the bulls. Tim has been the best. I mean I thought that was pretty obvious but okay.
I said he was the best player in the past decade, but what I really meant since 99. Forgive me for using the word "decade". but if you want to talk about the 97 and 07 decade, Yeah Tim has won more championships than MJ during that era to.
The Scoreboard shows that Duncan has led his team to 4 NBA Championships.
Shaq and Kobe are the only current players in the NBA that can be mentioned on this level.
Lebron was swept, Nash hasn't done , who else you want to throw in there?
Duncan is the best player in the NBA. ing Period. Didn't you watch the playoffs? Yeah, Tony Parker won the MVP, but he did it because Duncan led him the entire way.
You guys continue to amaze me with your short bus riding takes when it comes to wins in the regular season... You don't get for winning in the regular season Mavfan and Sunsfan... You don't get .
Duncan and Shaq are on a totally different level when it comes to greatness. True greatness.
Jordan Was the best basketball player to step on the court. You can't say that Jordan coming back out of retirement for 2002,2003 had the same game and skills. He was older and his contributions were declining. Need I remind you that the Wizards didn't make it to the playoffs the 2 years he played there? SO yes while he is the GOAT Shooting Guard of all time, he wasn't able to play at his highest levels as a Wizard. Both years the team finished 37-45But Jordan is still the best basketball player to step on an NBA court in the past 10 years.
Tim Duncan has NEVER missed the playoffs...EVER.
Mavs fan=Easy Prey
Some people are so devoid of common sense, logic and basketball IQ that they should never ever post on a basketball related newsgroup.
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