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Notre. Dame.
Quinn could be a great QB, but you have to look at the situation. First, he plays for the Browns. IF the Browns ever get any kind of a good OL and running game going that would help Quinn out dramatically. I have my doubts on whether that will ever happen given the Browns' track record since they came back as an expansion team. Without those people around him, Quinn will struggle in the NFL. He doesn't have Vick speed or VY and Vick agility, so he's going to be an easy target without a good OL.
And regarding the Cowboys not drafting him, why would they? They have needs elsewhere, and already have a young QB who has actually shown that he can play NFL ball. Why draft Quinn and have to pay him the big 1st round QB bucks when you know you're going to have to give Romo big money at some point this season if you want to keep him? Jerry Jones doesn't want to pay big 1st round QB money to rookie backup. That would be incredibly stupid. Jones did the right thing - use the 1st rounder on the big time key position for the Phillips 34 and get an additional 2008 1st out of it. Then get help with the OL in free agency (L. Davis). With a solid OL and defense behind him Romo can manage games while not having to resort to gunslinging to get a win. It's all set up well, but we'll start seeing if he can do it consistently in a few weeks.
2 words.
Notre. Dame.
I agree, but just because Quinn played for N.D. and put up big numbers doesn't mean he is going to dominate the NFL either. What it tells you after evaluating Brady, he wasn't graded a top 10 pick. Besides we have seen more 1st round QB busts, especially guys drafted in the late 1st round, than studs. But there is a big difference between Quinn and guys like Bulger and T. Brady. Bulger and Brady didn't come into the league with the hype Quinn has. The league is scattered with great players taken late in the draft. Im saying after watching Quinn the last 2 years(how can you not after so many N.D. games are televised), he remindes me of guys like Couch and Harrington and I don't think he will be a stud in the NFL. And I think the Cowboys made the right choice passing on him, gaining a key pass rusher for Wade's aggressive 3-4, and gaining a high 1st rounder next year. We do have a Pro-Bowl QB after all.
I know he has hype but man its not really his fault. I mean yea he went to ND where all their games are televised, but who wouldnt want to play qb at ND? All Im saying is you shouldnt wish for someone to fail because of their hype, you hope for someone to fail because the Cowboys have their first round pick next year
not sure if it has been mentioned cause im too lazy to read this whole thread, while brady did put up good numbers, he did it against detroits 3rd defense AND they were laying off on everyone, most of his passes were short to a wide open running back who then ran about 10 to 20 yards. he barely threw down the field at all.
I just saying I think he will end up in the catagory of Harrington, Couch, etc, and the Cowboys made an excellent trade out of that spot and gaining a high 1st rounder next year. I just don't think he will be that good on the NFL level. Especially after witnessing back to back losses to USC and LSU where he completed less than 50% and looked horrible.
Nice. Thats pretty funny
Last edited by O-Factor; 08-22-2007 at 12:55 AM.
What? He wasn't in the Pro-Bowl?
I saw him there.
Being in the Pro-Bowl and calling someone an All-Pro QB are two COMPLETELY different things.
I never called him an All-Pro, but he will get there. I called him a Pro-Bowl QB you ing moron can't you read or are you just being a stupid ?
You did only say, "we do have a Pro-Bowl QB" and again..............
I saw him in the Pro-Bowl.
Did you also watch the second half of the season?
Yes, I did. I watched the defense fail to cover anyone and fail to make adjustments to abandon the secondary cover 2 in order to keep Williams and the rookie Watkins from getting smoked in coverage. That was the real reason for the decline in wins, not all on Romo. They looked like UT's defense at the end of the season - UT's 99th in the country against the pass but 4th against the run defense. Considering he had to get ready and seasoned in a hurry, he had a really good season.
I just hope this new staff is more able to react to the adjustments other teams make against the defense. Parcells is a great football coach, but his defense was far too stagnant and since he forced it on D Coordinator Mike Zimmer, Zim didn't know what the to do to adjust it. Zim's a 4-3 guy. You seem like a die hard Charger - how was Wade at adjusting his defensive strategy to match adjustments that opponents make? I only watched 2 Charger games last year so I really don't know much about his scheme.
I'm not mad that the Cowboys passed on him. We got the Browns 1st pick in next year's draft which means we will be able to get Brian Brohm, maybe Darren McFadden, DeSean Jackson, Joe Thomas.
As of now, Brian Brohm is the only quarterback worth taking. And, he might be gone before we can take him depending on what the Browns do.
However, if we do end up with Brohm, I'll shut up about Quinn.
Wade seemed great until we got into third and long situations or had a big lead and needed to close out a game. I'm not sure if this problem was Wade or Shotty taking over but we'd always get burned down the stretch playing in Cover 2 and not pressuring the QB. Wade's defenses were great until he got conservative.
probably Marty. in that playoff game, the second Marty put on that headset in the 2nd half, EVERYONE knew that the Chargers were done for.
Do you mean Jake Long? IMO, he is a better T prospect than both top 5 picks this year, Thomas and Brown.
Yeah, something like that.
So, now it's Wade's fault????
You don't want to place any blame on the HEAD COACH????
What's wrong with you?
Wade was the defensive coordinator and has been known to resort to his cover 2 scheme when he has a lead. How does that have anything to do with the head coach? And I don't see anywhere I blamed Wade for anything to begin with. I simply stated that he tends to let up and not be as aggresive on third and longs and with a lead. That is fact.
And I'm not just speaking about the playoff game, I'm talking about the entire season. Did you watch every single Charger game since Wade was there? Do you know the in's and out's of Wade's playcalling? Do you know his strengths and weaknesses?
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