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    Too bad that's sound to a still picture.

    How do you know that he didn't put his hand over his heart when the music started 2 seconds later?
    I never claimed to know for sure, but did hear about the incident. Now I finally found the clip, and that quesation is answered:

    "controversy," Hannity asks: "Is this....

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    This is dumber and more disingenuous than the 9/11 conspiracy threads.
    yes it is. anxiety and fear are gripping the gop. it's on life support and ready for flatline. followers can see the end. they're desperately trying to make peace with their God while begging the lord for their party's exsistance.

    the only weapon they have left is fear, so they'll prey on the weak, again.

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    Too bad that's sound to a still picture.
    No it's not.

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    I agree he should have placed his hand over his heart.

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    I'll end this silly thread. if I can find Bush a picture of bush without his hand over his heart during the playing of ther national anthem will this shut up the resident whiners? or will the nwe have logically assume the bush is not fit to be president and that we should question his loyalty?

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    Ooops!!! Impeach him!!!
    hows that?

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    I'll end this silly thread. if I can find Bush a picture of bush without his hand over his heart during the playing of ther national anthem will this shut up the resident whiners? or will the nwe have logically assume the bush is not fit to be president and that we should question his loyalty?
    Didn't someone post one of those just a bit ago?

    Oh yeah:



    You really pay attention.

    But, that doesn't really end the debate over Hussein. My question was, "does he consciously not place his hand over his heart during the playing of the national anthem and why did he quit wearing the American Flag pin that is traditionally worn by Senators and member of Congress?"

    Anyone can forget to put their hand over their heart during the national anthem.

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    now this thread can end. it was weak to start it but it was even weaker to try and make an issue out of it.

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    Didn't someone post one of those just a bit ago?

    Oh yeah:



    You really pay attention.

    But, that doesn't really end the debate over Hussein. My question was, "does he consciously not place his hand over his heart during the playing of the national anthem and why did he quit wearing the American Flag pin that is traditionally worn by Senators and member of Congress?"

    Anyone can forget to put their hand over their heart during the national anthem.

    he already explained why he doesn't wear the flag pin. either your nitpicking further or just to lazy to find out yourself.

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    I didn't see any movement at all on the raw story link. That's why I provided the other.

    Now as for president Bush, looks like a snapshot as he is rising his hand.

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    it's a "GOP whining for attention" thread.

    just stick to scaring the weak. it's the only tool you have left.

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    he's not rising his hand. and look at laura, she's so disgusted having to pretend to be happily married.

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    OK, maybe the rew story link is a video? If so, my computer only played the audio. so... do I have a problem there? Anyone? I have so many layers of protection on thye computer, something might be in conflict.

    As for the last of the you-tube link I supplied, from a campaign spokesperson:

    "Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. In no way was he making any sort of statement, and any suggestion to the contrary is rediculous"
    I'm sorry. Back to the "lead by example" and proper honors. He needs to do these things. If he's not making a statement, he's too damn ignorant to be president. If he's making a statement, it's the wrong statement to make.

    He lost some of the respect I had for him, which was quite a bit for a liberal.

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    look at that sad picture of truth. poor laura is thinking "God I'm miserable. Isn't there one descent sniper left in the world?"

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    he already explained why he doesn't wear the flag pin. either your nitpicking further or just to lazy to find out yourself.
    No, I've heard his explanation. I don't get the connection between protesting the Iraq war and not wearing the American flag -- a tradition that predates our invasion of Iraq.

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    I probably never would have noticed, let alone cared, if Barack Obama had simply stopped wearing an American flag lapel pin. I'd never noticed that he was wearing one in the first place. But Obama chose to frame his decision to stop wearing the flag pin as some kind of political statement. So I think it is natural for people to wonder what, exactly, is the content of the political statement; to what group of voters is it intended to appeal; and what does it tell us about Obama as a candidate?

    There doesn't seem to be any plausible set of answers to these questions that casts much credit on Obama.

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    poor laura, that picture says it all. so many women attached to conservatives and feeling trapped with no hope of escape. she must live in constant fear. probably hoping for a comet to bring her some sweet relief.

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    I probably never would have noticed, let alone cared, if Barack Obama had simply stopped wearing an American flag lapel pin. I'd never noticed that he was wearing one in the first place. But Obama chose to frame his decision to stop wearing the flag pin as some kind of political statement. So I think it is natural for people to wonder what, exactly, is the content of the political statement; to what group of voters is it intended to appeal; and what does it tell us about Obama as a candidate?

    There doesn't seem to be any plausible set of answers to these questions that casts much credit on Obama.

    leave it to Fox news to the story..that's who broke it and brought it to your attention. so it wasn't that big of a deal until the fair and balanced network brought it up.. no they are not biased and still cannot figure out why dems stay far away from fox news..

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    leave it to Fox news to the story..that's who broke it and brought it to your attention. so it wasn't that big of a deal until the fair and balanced network brought it up.. no they are not biased and still cannot figure out why dems stay far away from fox news..
    Actually, a local reporter for KCRG (the ABC affiliate in Cedar Rapids, Iowa) asked the question. The Associated Press picked up his response and NBC News took the story to their national audience.

    I'm not saying FoxNews didn't report it but, I don't watch FoxNews...I don't even get that channel on my television.

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    Actually, a local reporter for KCRG (the ABC affiliate in Cedar Rapids, Iowa) asked the question. The Associated Press picked up his response and NBC News took the story to their national audience.

    I'm not saying FoxNews didn't report it but, I don't watch FoxNews...I don't even get that channel on my television.

    well that is where i saw the most interest in the story.

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    look at poor laura. it's just been confirmed that the only song on her ipod is "rescue me".

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    well that is where i saw the most interest in the story.
    I see. I did a search and have yet to find a story on it linked to FoxNews.

    I'll look again.

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    First page of a google search on "Obama and the flag" comes back with several links to MSNBC, Breitbart, ABCNews, and Salon -- along with some blogs.

    No FoxNews link...

    Let me see how many pages in before I get to a FoxNews story about "Obama and the flag"

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    Search Obama lapel pin.

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