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Yeah JFK's dad was a bootlegger. And JFK had an affair
with a Nazi spy. No big deal.
He's dead...and, therefore, unable to support anyone any longer. Plus, I don't recall him endorsing George Bush in either of his races for president. Do you?
Your black helicopter Alex Jones nonsense aside, neither you nor Holt's Cat can name a single individual or group that is racist and that supported George W. Bush for President and from whom he did not distance himself or repudiate their position.
Sweet.
Yeah JFK's dad was a bootlegger. And JFK had an affair
with a Nazi spy. No big deal.
I'm all ears, HC, who are they?You don't know?
Yes, in 2000.
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003...bio/index.html
Thurmond's pull with the military and veterans' communities came into play in 2000 during the South Carolina presidential primary, when upstart candidate U.S. Sen. John McCain of Arizona courted the state's large number of military retirees. Thurmond helped deliver the state's primary voters to now-President George W. Bush.
xray agrees with me.Your black helicopter Alex Jones nonsense aside,
Ray: Yoni thinks you are an Alex Jones black helicopter conspiracy theorist. Seriously, Yoni. Every consrvative in the country wants something done about the border. , something like 2/3 or 3/4 of Hispanic Americans want something done about. So why aren't Bush and the Republicans in DC doing what we all want? Why is it that out of Paul, Romney, Giuliani, Thompson, and McCain, only Paul is talking about doing what we want about the border? I leave it to you to figure out the most logical answer to that question.
Oh yeah, JPK was a big Nazi supporter. It goes to show that in general, the people who have been running our country in recent times are a shady bunch that are not to be trusted.
Very good. But, was Thurmond still espousing racist venom in 2000? Any more than is Robert Byrd in 2007?
In the sense that I disagree with President Bush on border security and amnesty for illegal immigrants, I guess I agree with the Alex Jones black helicopter conspiracy, as well.
I probably should have considered my response more before posting.
But, sorry, Ron Paul still doesn't get my vote next November.
I know a big racist from my home town, and he loves GWB. Is that good enough?
And yes, there are racists in both parties, and you could find terrible people who support every politician in DC.
Somebody put that in their sig. Yoni's coming around!In the sense that I disagree with President Bush on border security and amnesty for illegal immigrants, I guess I agree with the Alex Jones black helicopter conspiracy, as well.
No, I think I'm looking for someone George W. Bush is aware is a racist.
The operative question here is whether or not Ron Paul is sufficiently distancing himself for those elements.
I've always disagreed with the administration's policy on immigration.Somebody put that in their sig. Yoni's coming around!
Zogby hints that Ron Paul has a good chance of winning New Hampshire
LinkyThe latest CBS poll out has Ron Paul at 8% among registered Republicans who are likely to vote in the primaries. Given that a large number of Paul supporters are always excluded from the polling data, it is possible that Ron Paul could win New Hampshire when their primary is held.
Yesterday on Sean Hannity’s radio show Mr. Zogby was a guest who said that Ron Paul could take up to 18% of the vote–I’d like to think it is a higher amount overall but he could win it. I know Zogby says Ron Paul won’t win to Sean Hannity, but he’s just reassuring himself. It is going to really depend on how many independents, Democrats, and new voters go for Ron Paul. From what I can tell it is very difficult to measure that because it’s impossible to figure out who all is going to vote in a primary for a Republican when half the state are registered independents plus a lot of libertarian minded people who probably vote for libertarian party candidates most of the time.
So you don't count Strom Thurmond because he hadn't said anything racist in public in a while? Hallelujah! Strom saw the light and the error of his ways! Even as he hid his black illigitimate daughter, but never mind that!
Have GHWB and GWB sufficiently distanced themselves from Prescott Bush's Nazi dealings? Did they give away to charity all the profits that the family made from Hitler's regime?The operative question here is whether or not Ron Paul is sufficiently distancing himself for those elements.
But now you are figuring out why that is. There are only 3 possible reasons why Bush and those who agree with him in the party won't do what conservatives and the population in general want done about the border:I've always disagreed with the administration's policy on immigration.
1. They don't want to
2. They want to, but the people that fund their political careers and the party don't want them to
3. Both
That's it; there are no other possible explanations. Now the next question is: why is it that powerful people in this country, inside and outside the government, think the way they do about the border?
Not likely.
Ron Paul wants to end the war on drugs, which has millions of young black men locked up, their property seized, and a criminal record that scars them for life.
The average black male spends over two years in prison mostly most of it from victimless drug "crimes".
All the other 1st tier candidates running, like Hillary, think it's just great that all these black people are locked up for fictional uncons utional crimes.
Ron Paul will pardon everyone convicted of a federal drug crime.
It looks like Ron Paul supporters really are everywhereAwesome!
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4078/crowdzn6.jpg
Are Ron Paul supporters anti-government?
LinkFederal agents have reportedly seized illegal "Liberty Dollars" and other currency, including two tons of copper coins bearing the likeness of GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul.
The raid took place yesterday in Evansville, Ind., at the headquarters of the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act & Internal Revenue Code, a group that the government accuses of producing and distributing illegal currency.
A spokesman for Paul says the GOP lawmaker has nothing to do with the group or its currency.
"We have no connection with that," Jesse Benton tells AP. "He was using Ron as a marketing technique. We didn't have anything to do with that or sanction it or give permission in any way."
"The U.S. Mint says on its website that "it is a Federal crime to utter or pass, or attempt to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver intended for use as current money except as authorized by law."
Looking at the pics of the coins at the link it is clear that the minted coins were intended to be a form of currency --there is no disclaimer that it is not legal tender.
And the group minting the coins makes no bones about it that they want it used as legal tender.
Does this include Disney dollars or McDonald's gift certificates?
No, just anti Federal Reserve.
That would be great, but my guess is that the judge doesn't let him anywhere near that. People have gone to court over the uncons utionality of the Fed before - "no dice" say the judges, even though it's completely obvious that it is.
Is the Federal Reserve part of the Legislative branch of the federal government? No.
Was the Fed created by a Cons utional Amendment? No, it was created by an Act of Congress.
Why has the court system not thrown out this uncons utional Act? It is considered to be cons utional by the court system because the congress "delegated" it's power over the value of money to the Fed, and that's okay, even though no where in the cons ution is congress given the power to do this. It would be like the president giving the powers of commander in chief to a whole new ins ution, complete with shareholders!
But what else is new, I guess; much of the federal government and the actions it takes are uncons utional.
Robert Byrd disagrees with Bush, I guess that makes him even.
I like Ron Paul too BTW.
i hereby endorse the ron paul revolution.
jfks dad was a bootlegger!!
nelson rockefellers dad was a gambler!
Kucinich/Paul ?
...Kucinich's wife says that Dennis could run with Ron Paul. She says that they're both "truth tellers"... It comes up with 2:05 left in the video....
Elizabeth Kucinich: My Husband Would "Absolutely" Consider Running With Ron Paul
Besides foreign policy and a few civil rights issues, they are polar opposites. Kucinich is pro gun control, for universal healthcare, pro-amnesty, and voted for no child left behind. Paul is for none of these issues. While i respect Kucinich for his stances on the patriot act and non intervention, this would never work and I think i can speak for RP when i say he would never let it happen.
Houston & Texas News
Nov. 26, 2007, 12:17PM
Texas' top corporations stay loyal to GOP
By RICHARD S. DUNHAM and KATHRINE SCHMIDT
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle
WHO GETS MONEY
Here are the top 10 Texas recipients of contributions from the state's 46 largest companies:
1. Sen. John Cornyn , R-Texas, $66,330
2. Rep. Joe Bart on , R-Ennis, $45,200
3. Rep. Kay Granger , R-Fort Worth, $37,500
4. Rep. Jeb Hensarling , R-Dallas, $34,500
5. Rep. John Carter , R-Round Rock, $31,000
6. Rep. Gene Green , D-Houston, $26,500
7. Rep. Michael Burgess , R-Lewisville, $26,500
8. Rep. Lamar Smith , R-San Antonio, $25,500
9. Rep. Henry Cuellar , D-Laredo, $24,000
10. Rep. Charlie Gonzalez , D-San Antonio, $23,500
Source: Congressional Quarterly MoneyLine
Bucking a national trend, Texas-based corporations have remained loyal to Republican congressional candidates in the 2008 campaign.
According to a Houston Chronicle analysis of Federal Election Committee data, the 46 Texas companies that are included in the Fortune 500 gave 73 percent of their political action committee contributions to Republican House and Senate candidates in Texas, while donating just 27 percent to Lone Star Democrats in the first nine months of 2007.
Nationally, the largest Texas companies sent more than $1.8 million, or 58 percent of their overall campaign cash, to congressional Republicans. Democrats received about $1.3 million.
"Texas is still Republican locally, and Texas businesses remain committed to the Republican Party," says Cal Jillson, a political science professor at Southern Methodist University.
But Jillson notes that even in Texas, "interest trumps ideology," and Texas companies have increased their donations to influential Democratic committee chairs and other power brokers in Washington.
( corporate "interest' = $$$$ they can get back from complicit, compromiseble political s )
"There are more Democrats now, and more are in positions of leadership," explained Jim Greenwood, vice president for governmental affairs at heavily Republican Valero Energy Corp. San Antonio-based Valero has shifted its PAC contributions from 9 percent Democratic in the 2005-2006 election cycle to 23 percent this year.
The cash flow toward Capitol Hill Democrats is far more pronounced among businesses in the other 49 states. In the months since Democrats gained control of Congress in January, the 50 biggest American industries have given 57 percent of their contributions to Democrats, according to a Nov. 15 analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.
Just last year, when Republicans controlled Congress, business interests favored the GOP by a margin of 2-to-1.
"This is when you find out who your friends are," said Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., a former chairman of the House Republicans' campaign committee. "In the business community, everybody is anteing up to who they think will win."
Analysts said Texas businesses are more likely to stick with Republicans because Lone Star State businesses tend to be more ideologically conservative than corporations in other states.
Energy sector is Republican
Texas companies also are heavily concentrated in the energy sector, which has remained staunchly Republican even in the new period of Democratic control of Capitol Hill.
( Iraq war, M/E instability, the ill-fought war on terra, absolutely no effective oil conservation programs, pushing the price of energy higher, are all Repug highest objectives and essentially heads still-secret National Energy Policy, and therefore energy corps are Repug )
One prominent example, Irving-based Exxon Mobil, has given Republicans 90.4 percent of the $360,330 in PAC money it has sent to candidates and party organizations this year. Among the recipients: Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, Rep. Joe Barton, R-Ennis, the top Republican on the House Energy & Commerce Committee, and the Republican Governors Association.
Regardless of which party controls Washington, Exxon Mobil spokesman Alan Jeffers says his company's PAC gives to candidates "who are pro-business and favor strengthening the free enterprise system."
( total bull )
Another factor contributing to the GOP tilt of Texas companies: The state's congressional delegation is dominated by Republicans, and businesses tend to support friendly in bents.
"We're a Republican state," said Rep. Gene Green, D-Houston, "(so) they're still going to play that way."
The favorite candidate of Texas' largest companies is Cornyn, a first-term Republican senator who is up for re-election in 2008.
Cornyn has received $66,330 from the state's Fortune 500 companies in the first nine months of 2007, according to FEC records.
The free-enterprise conservative from San Antonio has received 100 percent of the business PAC donations to the Texas Senate race, where the early Democratic front-runner is state Rep. Rick Noriega, D-Houston.
Cornyn campaign spokesman Kevin McLaughlin says the senator "understands that government's role is providing a pro-growth environment, where taxes are low and government red tape is kept to a minimum."
Green leads on Dem side
The leading Democratic recipient of Texas business donations is Houston's Green, a member of the Energy & Commerce Committee and a frequent ally of hometown oil interests. His contributors have included Exxon Mobil, Reliant Energy, and CenterPoint Energy.
"I have a district that has energy in it," said Green, who represents much of the petrochemical area of eastern Harris County. "I don't represent the managers and owners. I represent a lot of people who work at the plants. My goal is to make sure they continue to have jobs."
Green said he tries "to balance the interests of the district."
Only one House member received no contributions from the state's largest corporate PACs: maverick Republican Rep. Ron Paul, a libertarian and frequent critic of big business who currently is running for president.
"They're very aware that they cannot influence his votes one way or the other, so they generally do not bother to give him money," said Mark Elam, campaign manager of Paul's congressional re-election race.
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