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    This whole thread = , both the people that were trying to be funny and WC.

    The TX governor's job is one of the weakest in the nation. A huge chunk of the real power in dealing with the legislature resides with the Lt Gov.

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    This whole thread = , both the people that were trying to be funny and WC.

    The TX governor's job is one of the weakest in the nation. A huge chunk of the real power in dealing with the legislature resides with the Lt Gov.
    Yeah, but governors get to make speeches and act all "leaderly" and stuff on the TV; that's how we know they'll make good leaders as President.

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    This thread is a waste of time because the point of it is to convince WC why he should consider Hillary a good candidate.

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    I hear this a lot, or it's twin brothers "9/11 changed everything" and "post 9/11 world"...as if the United States never experienced any national threat before then.

    I wonder why George Washington didn't simply retain his commission after the Revolutionary War and go along with his officers in their planned coup in the name of protecting his new nation against the perilous threat of Britanofascists who wanted to destroy America? Why didn't Madison suspend the Cons ution after the British burned down the White House? How the did we manage to live through the Cold War with our civil liberties intact? Those were real threats, not this paranoid delusion about the U.S. transforming into an Islamic fundamentalist state.
    That's a good post. With some good points.

    However, we DID lose civil liberties during the cold war. Ever heard of McCarthy? How about what happened to the Japanese during WWII? Let's not even discuss Lincoln and what happened to the Cons ution during/after the Civil War. Roosevelt and the Supreme Court?

    I understand what you are saying, but you kind of cherry-picked history to make your point.

    And, no, I don't think there is a great chance of the U.S. being transformed into an Islamist state. I do, however, truly believe that there are people who feel that their God wants it to do so, and wants them to help make it so.

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    That's a good post. With some good points.

    However, we DID lose civil liberties during the cold war. Ever heard of McCarthy? How about what happened to the Japanese during WWII? Let's not even discuss Lincoln and what happened to the Cons ution during/after the Civil War. Roosevelt and the Supreme Court?

    I understand what you are saying, but you kind of cherry-picked history to make your point.
    Correct, but now we regard those events in history as with disdain and embarrassment. We should have learned something from those events.

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    Correct, but now we regard those events in history as with disdain and embarrassment. We should have learned something from those events.
    And I would suggest, sometimes overreact to current events believing ourselves to be repeating history.

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    That's a good post. With some good points.

    However, we DID lose civil liberties during the cold war. Ever heard of McCarthy? How about what happened to the Japanese during WWII? Let's not even discuss Lincoln and what happened to the Cons ution during/after the Civil War. Roosevelt and the Supreme Court?

    I understand what you are saying, but you kind of cherry-picked history to make your point.

    And, no, I don't think there is a great chance of the U.S. being transformed into an Islamist state. I do, however, truly believe that there are people who feel that their God wants it to do so, and wants them to help make it so.
    Were you even alive during the so called McCarthy era?

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    Were you even alive during the so called McCarthy era?
    No.

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