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    I would like to know if anyone knows what qualifications senator Clinton, senator Obama, senator Edwards, senator McCain, or Representative Paul have for becoming president.

    OK, the fit the cons utional criteria for age and citizenship. However, what have they done in life to prepare then for an executive position?

    Have any of them been in an executive position before?

    Have any of them been successful in business as an owner or CEO?

    Have any of them been successful in any private sector job that shows the qualities of a leader?

    This may not matter to many of you, but it is a real question that merits an answer to many of us.

    If you were the owner of a chain of stores, would you higher someone who never managed a single store, to be the regional manager of several stores?

    I am not aware of any of those people being qualified. I may be wrong, can someone convince me? Sure, I left out a few candidates, but I feel I picked the top tier. I am comfortable with someone who was a successful business owner, mayor, or governor. Just not someone who has no practical experience as a leader.

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    The executive branch is not a business. Oh, wait. Nevermind.

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    the current pres. makes all those questions moot.

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    So Lincoln is out too.

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    I would like to know if anyone knows what qualifications senator Clinton, senator Obama, senator Edwards, senator McCain, or Representative Paul have for becoming president.

    OK, the fit the cons utional criteria for age and citizenship. However, what have they done in life to prepare then for an executive position?

    Have any of them been in an executive position before?

    Have any of them been successful in business as an owner or CEO?

    Have any of them been successful in any private sector job that shows the qualities of a leader?

    This may not matter to many of you, but it is a real question that merits an answer to many of us.

    If you were the owner of a chain of stores, would you higher someone who never managed a single store, to be the regional manager of several stores?

    I am not aware of any of those people being qualified. I may be wrong, can someone convince me? Sure, I left out a few candidates, but I feel I picked the top tier. I am comfortable with someone who was a successful business owner, mayor, or governor. Just not someone who has no practical experience as a leader.
    Well, I know Barack Obama probably doesn't have much executive experience because after undergrad he was a community organizer. Then, after law school, he was a civil rights lawyer before becoming a cons utional law professor and state senator. If only he had done something more substantial like owning a minority interest in the Texas Rangers or operating failed oil ventures.

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    Ask all those questions about dubya. He was and is now totally unqualified.

    affirmative action/legacy Ivy League entrant, loafed through Yale AND Harvard.
    draft evader
    alcoholic and drug user
    multiple failed business ventures rescued by Poppy's friends
    no charisma.
    no intellectual curiosity or interests
    never travelled outside of the USA before age 50
    loves politics? didn't even want to run for TX governor, was drafted.
    essentially uneducated and ignorant
    tongue-tied "uncommunicator" with tone-deaf, wooden delivery
    no connection between brain and mouth
    EFL (English Foreign Language).

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    The executive branch is not a business. Oh, wait. Nevermind.

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    Well, I know Barack Obama probably doesn't have much executive experience because after undergrad he was a community organizer. Then, after law school, he was a civil rights lawyer before becoming a cons utional law professor and state senator. If only he had done something more substantial like owning a minority interest in the Texas Rangers or operating failed oil ventures.

    but then there's the whole "pin-gate" thing.

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    but then there's the whole "pin-gate" thing.
    If he would have been an executive, he would know that your apparel is more important than your actions. It's the Mr. Blackwell doctrine.

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    If he would have been an executive, he would know that your apparel is more important than your actions. It's the Mr. Blackwell doctrine.

    Speaking of Mr. Blackwell, did you catch Hillary's outfit last debate. OMGzz!!! Who dresses her? Ray Charles?

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    Speaking of Mr. Blackwell, did you catch Hillary's outfit last debate. OMGzz!!! Who dresses her? Ray Charles?

    hilarious

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    I would like to know if anyone knows what qualifications senator Clinton, senator Obama, senator Edwards, senator McCain, or Representative Paul have for becoming president.

    OK, the fit the cons utional criteria for age and citizenship. However, what have they done in life to prepare then for an executive position?

    Have any of them been in an executive position before?

    Have any of them been successful in business as an owner or CEO?

    Have any of them been successful in any private sector job that shows the qualities of a leader?

    This may not matter to many of you, but it is a real question that merits an answer to many of us.

    If you were the owner of a chain of stores, would you higher someone who never managed a single store, to be the regional manager of several stores?

    I am not aware of any of those people being qualified. I may be wrong, can someone convince me? Sure, I left out a few candidates, but I feel I picked the top tier. I am comfortable with someone who was a successful business owner, mayor, or governor. Just not someone who has no practical experience as a leader.
    You're comfortable with someone who is a mayor? You don't aim very high do you? So in your opinion, Ed Garza is more qualified to be president than Hillary, John Edwards, Barack, McCain, etc.?

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    you see, WC? If you put me on ignore, you'll be missing out on pure comic gold.

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    thank you

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    You're comfortable with someone who is a mayor? You don't aim very high do you? So in your opinion, Ed Garza is more qualified to be president than Hillary, John Edwards, Barack, McCain, etc.?
    I know nothing of the mayor of San Antonio, but at least he has a resume that shows if he did or didn't have what it takes to be a leader.

    Thing is, with someone never in a true leadership roll, what do we have to base our decisions on? Some of us actually believe in promotions as a succession of steps, rather than just suddenly being at the top of a system.

    I couldn't say if Garza was more qualified than Edwards for example. We could get lucky and elect someone with no leadership experience that turns out to be a good leader. I'm just pointing out that we have no past qualifications to look on that count for applying to the top executive position in government for these people.

    Accomplishments in congress have no comparisons for accomplishments in an executive roll. The reality of the jobs are different.

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    I know nothing of the mayor of San Antonio, but at least he has a resume that shows if he did or didn't have what it takes to be a leader.

    Thing is, with someone never in a true leadership roll, what do we have to base our decisions on? Some of us actually believe in promotions as a succession of steps, rather than just suddenly being at the top of a system.

    I couldn't say if Garza was more qualified than Edwards for example. We could get lucky and elect someone with no leadership experience that turns out to be a good leader. I'm just pointing out that we have no past qualifications to look on that count for applying to the top executive position in government for these people.

    Accomplishments in congress have no comparisons for accomplishments in an executive roll. The reality of the jobs are different.
    you must have boutons on ignore. too bad. he laid it out pretty well.

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    I know nothing of the mayor of San Antonio, but at least he has a resume that shows if he did or didn't have what it takes to be a leader.

    Thing is, with someone never in a true leadership roll, what do we have to base our decisions on? Some of us actually believe in promotions as a succession of steps, rather than just suddenly being at the top of a system.

    I couldn't say if Garza was more qualified than Edwards for example. We could get lucky and elect someone with no leadership experience that turns out to be a good leader. I'm just pointing out that we have no past qualifications to look on that count for applying to the top executive position in government for these people.

    Accomplishments in congress have no comparisons for accomplishments in an executive roll. The reality of the jobs are different.
    So you based your decision to support Bush based on his accomplishments as an executive?

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    you must have boutons on ignore. too bad. he laid it out pretty well.
    Yeah, putting people on ignore causes you to miss half the argument.

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    Why did you leave out Rudy "I was the mayor of NYC during 9/11, in case you didn't know that!" Giuliani? That's good enough to qualify for the presidency, no questions asked?

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    So Lincoln is out too.
    he wouldn't have voted for lincoln anyway. remember, he'd have fought for states rights to promote slavery or any other state rights reason.

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    he wouldn't have voted for lincoln anyway. remember, he'd have fought for states rights to promote slavery or any other state rights reason.
    According to xray's excellent article, Lincoln overreacted when he abolished slavery.

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    According to xray's excellent article, Lincoln overreacted when he abolished slavery.
    didn't we all.

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    So you based your decision to support Bush based on his accomplishments as an executive?
    No. In general I was to see a resume that shows the candidate in a leadership roll. I was leery of voting for him in both 2000 and 2004. I never really liked him, but he is our president. I think he has done a fine job handling some things, and a miserable job handling others. I was not going to vote for either senator Gore or senator Kerry. What was their qualifications anyway?

    Richardson probably has the best chance of being elected president from the democrat side if he could win the nomination. Allot of republicans would cross over and vote for him. I really don't think Hillary will be president if she maintains being the democrat favorite. I think Obama has a better chance of winning the Nov. 2008 election than she does. Still, he has the lack of experience that Romney, Huckabee, or Giuliani will be able to capitalize on. Even if Thompson manages to take the republican nomination, he has been successful both as a lawyer and actor, then does have some experience as a well loved senator. He has shown he is multi-talented. I don't think it's as good as being in a leadership roll, but his achievements are better than others without such experience.

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    i guess it's escaped your attention that the man you voted for isn't qualified.

    you should find another way to choose a candidate.

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    you must have boutons on ignore. too bad. he laid it out pretty well.
    No, boutons from time to time contributes to an argument. I just try not to go off on tangents too much. He list a series of negative things about or president. Some are true, some are just unfounded rumor. Sins of the past does not mean people haven't changed, or disqualify then freom being productive. Person demons do not disqualify a person from being able to hold down a job either.

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