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    "I think he spoke from the heart and I believe him."

    I do, too. Sincerity and authenticity are prized only because they are so absent in American public life. eg, the response that Ron Paul is getting is due to not only what he says, but his non-pandering, non-vote grubbing authenticity. Unfortunately, there aren't enough people in the USA who value a Ron Paul to get him elected.

    Willard also has serious success in business (although born wealthy, like so many other plutocrats) and running a Dem/liberal state government as a Repug. Pretty impressive guy and record. And he seems physically fit, if nothing other than from eating according to Mormon dietary guidelines. Probably the best operational record of any candidate. Certainly much better record than the total loser currently in the WH.

    But Willard hasn't convinced me he can keep his weird-ass, radical, fringe bizarre cultish beliefs out of his Executive functioning.
    Last edited by boutons_; 12-07-2007 at 04:29 PM.

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    god saved his love for the US.

    a country just over 200 years old.
    And one of the most prosperous, victorious and free
    countries that ever existed.

    Just maybe he did bestow his blessings on us for trying to
    base our government on his teachings.

    Think about it.

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    And one of the most prosperous, victorious and free
    countries that ever existed.

    Just maybe he did bestow his blessings on us for trying to
    base our government on his teachings.

    Think about it.
    think about reading the thread.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    And one of the most prosperous, victorious and free
    countries that ever existed.

    Just maybe he did bestow his blessings on us for trying to
    base our government on his teachings.

    Think about it.

    I didn't realize God played favorites..

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    think about reading the thread.
    Which part did I miss? That someone said "Our government
    was based on Christian principles"

    or

    That the above statement should end the thread

    or

    George Washingtons speech?

    Or the part where I ask someone to think above what
    made this country into what it is?

    Because the law of the jungle is not what made us what
    we are. I can promise you that!

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    ray, i don't have a time machine to take you back where you belong.

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    I didn't realize God played favorites..

    Then you have never read the bible. He most surely does.

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    ray, i don't have a time machine to take you back where you belong.
    I thought you had everything. And what part of the ages
    do I belong in.........

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    I thought you had everything. And what part of the ages
    do I belong in.........
    in the time that evolution forgot.

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    thought-deficient XZ exhorting us to "think about it"

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    in the time that evolution forgot.

    You know evolution is only a theory, don't you? And if it
    is fact, then it could not miss a period and it is not a living
    thing so it cant forget.............come on get with the
    program!

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    thought-deficient XZ exhorting us to "think about it"
    You are capable of thinking, aren't you boutons. In the
    club you post some pretty coherent things. Here, hmmmm,
    well, lets say you other language kinda comes out. You
    know profane.

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    i am suggesting that the time missed was your birthdate. the present passed you long ago. but don't fret, i like dinosaurs.

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    "Mitt deluded himself into believing in this cult'

    He was born into a Mormon family, his grandparents being polygamists who fled to MX to avoid prosecution.

    As an adult, tearing down and inspecting what you were born into, received from your family, and then deciding to accept or reject it is often difficult.

    Romney is obviously, accurately tatooed as a devout, practicing, believing Mormon, too late to change his spots. I'd say, and hope, that he's ed as a candidate. What the could a president who believes in "continuing revelation" come up with as revealed to him. We already know how ed up the world is due to God telling dubya to invade Iraq.

    His yesterday's "religion requires freedom, freedrom requires religion" is scary bull . Freedom is a fairly recent political/social construct. Religion is supposed to be transcendant and spiritual, but American religion makes it material, political, venal. The success of the "Christian" supremecists is that they have confused America about Caesar vs God, Christ himself making the crystal clear distinction.

    How can both parties continue to put forward such horrendously weak candidates, compounded by horrendously weak and over-extended, too-long campaigns? Does it really take 2 years for Americans to elect a President? The system is ed.

    As George Carlin said, maybe something else (besides the politicians) sucks around here. Maybe it's the citizens who suck.
    Here's to you, B.

    Damn fine post.

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    Here's to you, B.

    Damn fine post.
    Yeah, damn fine post. Loved all those references to
    system and how you described them.....really great.

    By the way where did you learn all those four letter words?
    And don't be scared. The troops will protect you. Okay?

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    Then you have never read the bible. He most surely does.

    what if we worship the wrong God? Are we ed?

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    as long as he doesn't force american kids to ride around my neighborhood on bikes while wearing short sleeve white dress shirts with black ties in order to count the number of heathens in my household i dont care.

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    No matter how many facts you bring up that contradicts this belief?
    So, has this question been answered yet?

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    Then you have never read the bible. He most surely does.
    That is a very Presbyterian thing to say.

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    Then you have never read the bible. He most surely does.
    Yes, because a supernatural ultimate creator deity has nothing better do with his time than to interfere in human affairs.

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    what if we worship the wrong God? Are we ed?
    There's no way we worship the wrong God. We're right and every other faith in the history of mankind is mistaken and going to .

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    Yes, because a supernatural ultimate creator deity has nothing better do with his time than to interfere in human affairs.


    not to mention that he demands your worship

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    There's no way we worship the wrong God. We're right and every other faith in the history of mankind is mistaken and going to .

    I hope I'm worshiping the right God..

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    not to mention that he demands your worship
    God constantly craves attention and validation.

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    "God constantly craves attention and validation."

    and MONEY!

    http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2006/10/...our-money.html

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