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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    Wow -- it seems there is a real Bush vs. Cheney power struggle over Iran.

    How far will Cheney go? Will he try to infiltrate the Secret Service to go Praetorian Guard on Bush?

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    ....."this is not an escalation"....


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    The surge should have happened years ago.

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    The surge is bull . It keeps the lid on the boil, not reduce the boil. And the surge has absolutley failed, since there is no political reconciliation between Shia and Sunni.

    After the all-is-cool-in-Basra PR blitz by the UK military as they withdrew, we now here that Barsa and the south, after 4 1/2 years of UK occupation, is a mess.

    The US military is putting even more troops into Bagdad, while throwing money, aka Petraeus' counter-insurgency, at provincial/tribal leaders, who go along for now, because the money buys more supporters and arms for the inevitable Sunni-Shia bloodbath, as they try to grab oil just like dubya and head try to grab the oil.

    The US military is also asking for a withdrawal of Iraq troops back to Afghanistan where the Taliban is resurgent, the govt is weak and corrupt (like in Iran), and poppy crop is exploding.

    you're doing a heckuva job, dubya,

    all your jobs are well under control


    duyba and head will leave office with the world truly much worse off due to their own ups.

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    duyba and head will leave office with the world truly much worse off due to their own ups.
    You left out: OBL you are the worlds savior and thank you
    for bombing the WTC. We deserved it because we
    elected George Bush.

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    The surge is bull . It keeps the lid on the boil, not reduce the boil. And the surge has absolutley failed, since there is no political reconciliation between Shia and Sunni.

    After the all-is-cool-in-Basra PR blitz by the UK military as they withdrew, we now here that Barsa and the south, after 4 1/2 years of UK occupation, is a mess.
    Say what you will. With the UK withdrawl, 50% of Iraq is now under contol of Iraqi's!

    I know... Good news doesn't make it to the liberal media.

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    WC, go turn on your formidable reserach machine and get back to us on how things really going in Basra and southern Iraq. And don't bother quoting self-serving UK military press releases.

    Try the Iraqi chief of police's view on what the Brits have left him in Basra:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2228690,00.html
    Last edited by boutons_; 12-18-2007 at 12:45 AM.

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    Try the Iraqi chief of police's view on what the Brits have left him in Basra:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2228690,00.html
    I've learned long ago The Guardian seldom portrays the truth properly. I'm not even wasting my time reading it tonight.

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    I never had dinner with the president

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