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  1. #51
    The Crominator J.T.'s Avatar
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    If this season is any indication of what the Pats organization is really like, I don't blame Vinatieri for getting the out of there.

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    RIP whottt. slayermin's Avatar
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    Patriots are not the best team in history. They play in the weakest division in the NFL with a team that may go winless. Even if they go 19-0, I would rank them middle of the pack among the greatest SuperBowl teams.

    I think you can throw stats out the window with this team. I have never watched a team so blatantly pad their stats like this team has most of the year.

  3. #53
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    Patriots are not the best team in history. They play in the weakest division in the NFL with a team that may go winless. Even if they go 19-0, I would rank them middle of the pack among the greatest SuperBowl teams.

    I think you can throw stats out the window with this team. I have never watched a team so blatantly pad their stats like this team has most of the year.
    If they win the SB this year, then they can definitely be considered one of the greats, if not the greatest (I still think the 93 Cowboys are the best though). But they haven't won a championship, and until they do, that talk of being the greatest ever is absurd.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    They play in the weakest division in the NFL
    When did they move to the AFC West?

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    Patriots are not the best team in history. They play in the weakest division in the NFL with a team that may go winless. Even if they go 19-0, I would rank them middle of the pack among the greatest SuperBowl teams.

    I think you can throw stats out the window with this team. I have never watched a team so blatantly pad their stats like this team has most of the year.
    unapologetic destruction of their opponents?....i revel in it, i revel in it. its a beautiful thing.

  6. #56
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    unless the Patriots show that they can actually run the ball, they can't be the greatest ever. You can't be the greatest team ever with a one-dimensional offense. They won't even be in the Super Bowl if they stay one-dimensional.

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    So you hate a quarterback for getting all the credit, the exact same way every other quarterback gets all the credit when a team is winning?

    You could say the exact same thing about Tony Romo. Just use your exact post, replace Brady with Romo, Moss with Owens, Welker/Watson/Stallworth with Witten/Crayton/Barber, Culpepper with McNabb, Cunningham with Garcia. EVERY quarterback on a winning team gets too much credit.
    QB's get credit, but not to the extream that Brady is getting. And you can't replace Romo or whomever with Brady in my previous post because Moss is one of a kind WR, the likes of which the league has never seen. I will say hate is a strong word, but I just really dislike Brady's smugness as a whole.

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    unapologetic destruction of their opponents?....i revel in it, i revel in it. its a beautiful thing.
    I'm sure you enjoyed it there for a couple years... at least until your team met Vince Young for the first time. Things kinda went downhill from there for them...

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    So what we've learned in wasting two hours in this thread is that mono is full of , everyone hates the Patriots, and I'm getting $100 after January 20. Good day so far.

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    I'm sure you enjoyed it there for a couple years... at least until your team met Vince Young for the first time. Things kinda went downhill from there for them...
    i've enjoyed it since and do so today. too bad puny t.u. cannot claim the same. the programs aren't even comparable. will t.u. even make a BCS bowl in the near future?

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    i've enjoyed it since and do so today. too bad puny t.u. cannot claim the same. the programs aren't even comparable. will t.u. even make a BCS bowl in the near future?
    2005 Champions - Texas
    2006 Champions - Florida
    2007 Champions - Not known yet, but definitely will not be USC.

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    2005 Champions - Texas
    2006 Champions - Florida
    2007 Champions - Not known yet, but definitely will not be USC.
    good one, that really addresses the issue.

    lets see:

    2006 alamo bowl & 2007 holiday bowl...pretty sure those aren't BCS games. while USC is in back2back2back rose bowls....thats a BCS bowl, btw.

    enjoy your bowl games and A&M beating your ass again next year. oh yeah, 38-30...

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    They play in the weakest division in the NFL
    When did they move to the AFC West?

    Ooh...tough call, both are pretty bad.

    Current standings:

    AFC East
    Patriots 13-0
    Bills 7-6
    Jets 3-10
    Dolphins 0-13

    AFC West
    Chargers 8-5
    Broncos 6-7
    Raiders 4-9
    Chiefs 4-9

    I would have to give the nod to the East as being the worst. Although the NFC West could make a claim too.

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    Ooh...tough call, both are pretty bad.

    Current standings:

    AFC East
    Patriots 13-0
    Bills 7-6
    Jets 3-10
    Dolphins 0-13

    AFC West
    Chargers 8-5
    Broncos 6-7
    Raiders 4-9
    Chiefs 4-9

    I would have to give the nod to the East as being the worst. Although the NFC West could make a claim too.
    Would be crazy to have a 16-0 and 0-16 team in the same division. I say the Dolphins and Jets make the East the weakest division. At least every team in the West has won 4 games.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Butta you should go down to Miami...you would probably get some playing time!

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    good one, that really addresses the issue.

    lets see:

    2006 alamo bowl & 2007 holiday bowl...pretty sure those aren't BCS games. while USC is in back2back2back rose bowls....thats a BCS bowl, btw.

    enjoy your bowl games and A&M beating your ass again next year. oh yeah, 38-30...
    30/40 - 267 yds

    19 car, 200 yds, 3 TDs

    GW TD with :19 left.

    Texas 41, USC 38

  17. #67
    The Pats will be even more hated when they keep this core and add McFadden to the mix. I cant wait. I am already getting excited! This team will be even better next season.

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    There's probably one player on the Pats team I hate almost as much as Belichick and that's Junior Seau...that er is nothing but a hanger on. He's nothing more than Malone and Payton...trying to hang their way to a le.

    I want the Patriots to lose a game and lose in the playoffs just to keep Seau from winning a le.

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    I'll give $50 to someone who outs their bostonguy troll...

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    I'll give $50 to someone who outs their bostonguy troll...
    Where is The Confessor?

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  22. #72
    I hate the Pats especially now that they will get an amazing draft pick. God if I am scared now...I will be horrified next year. bostonguy for enjoying the good times.
    fixed

  23. #73
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    If they win the SB this year, then they can definitely be considered one of the greats, if not the greatest (I still think the 93 Cowboys are the best though). But they haven't won a championship, and until they do, that talk of being the greatest ever is absurd.
    The current Patriot defense is not as good as their previous three SuperBowl winners. They are good but not dominating or versatile as they were in the past.

    The current Patriot offense has great stats but like I said, that is because they pad their stats when the game is in hand. They don't run out the clock, they run up the score. And I agree, they are one dimensional.

    If you look at their stats, you would think they were the greatest offense to ever play the game. But I don't think that's the case at all.

  24. #74
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    The Colts defense has been playing lights out all season, and hasn't seemed to roll over and die without Freeney like some expected. The Pats D is a mirage... teams are forced to throw because of ridiculous play calling like 60 yard TD passes to Moss on ing first down. It's easy to have a kick ass pass rush when you know your opponent is going to throw on all downs for three quarters.

    Am I the only one who was laughing while Willis McGahee and Willie Parker dragged the NE defense over the first down line after it look like they were going to get stuffed for a two yard carry?

  25. #75
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    You are lowering usefulness of the "quoting a post and rewording it" forum trick to the equivalent of "yo mama" jokes each time you do it.

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