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I'm not particulary high on Ian either. Honestly, I don't know what kind of player he'll become.
I'm just saying he started to create interest in the preaseason.
If I'd want to lobby for a french fellow, I'd say try to get long 3 Nicolas Batum.
Not necessarly.That's an interesting thought. In the European league, if you're not an established player could being an NBA draft pick work against you in terms of getting playing time?
I'd say it depends on the needs and the caliber of the team he's playing for.
In a small team without a lot of money, if he can contribute, he'll play.
In a top team, chances will be much lower.
Teams are not particulary philantropic and they want to win as much as any other ones.
I'm not particulary high on Ian either. Honestly, I don't know what kind of player he'll become.
I'm just saying he started to create interest in the preaseason.
If I'd want to lobby for a french fellow, I'd say try to get long 3 Nicolas Batum.
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I'm not particulary high on Ian either. Honestly, I don't know what kind of player he'll become.
I'm just saying he started to create interest in the preaseason.
If I'd want to lobby for a french fellow, I'd say try to get long 3 Nicolas Batum.
But Batum is projected as a top 10 pick... I don't know how far he should slip before SA can trade for him at a reasonable cost.
Top ten if not higher... It will depend on the rest of his season on euroleague and of the quality of the US players depth.
He showed good... and bad things so far. But what's encouraging is that the good was really good and I'd say very NBA material and also that the bad was essentially a lack of consistency, which is quite normal for a 19 years old kid.
But he really has the skills, the athletics and the moves to make a name for himself in the NBA.
Since the Spurs have failed to trade up in any draft ever, even when they seemingly had assets, it's impossible they could get Batum. It's annoying to watch years of top notch SF prospects go to every other team, including teams already with top notch SF prospects.
Spurs could possibly have a couple of very attractive young big men to trade one in order to move up in the draft. Would anyone want to go that route? I don't think I would.
I wouldn't. More likely poach one of those former nice young SF prospects a team doesn't want to pay, like a Josh Childress. I wouldn't give up Mahinmi or Splitter at this point. Especially Splitter.
Seconded.
Some praise for Ian from draftexpress.com
“It is clear at this point that Mahinmi has better upside than any big man in the D league”
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Good to hear.
That's nice, but almost damning with faint praise given the dearth of quality big men in the D-League. I'm very happy that Ian has the beginnings of an offensive game at any rate.
You could see that he had some nice post moves, back in france specially thanks to his good feet speed. He just didn't have the opportunity to really show it, giving the situation.
That's why I'd like to see him play close to vet big men so he could learn from them.
The opposition in the D-league doesn't seem to be strong enough to really challenge him.
AgreedThe most shocking line of Mahinmi's is he was able to stay on the court for 48 minutes.
Another very nice statistical game by Mahinmi. 24 points on 7-11 and 10-13 FTs, 12 rebounds, 3 assists, and only 4 PFs in 38:44 minutes. Awaiting details from ChumpDumper.
Looks like he played well
It not only looks like he solved his foul problem, he's actually rebounding now. He's had double digit rebounds in three out of the last four games. The last thing he has to start doing is blocking shots but so far it's pretty obvious he's made some strides while with the Toros.
He's also drawing a lot of fouls so he's getting a lot of attention and putting teams in bad situations it appears.
Darius Washington looks like he had another bad game. Third straight game in which he's had more turnovers than assists (3 assists vs. 5 turnovers). That's not a good sign for a young point guard prospect ... especially in the D-League where washed up players like Randy Livingston can hand out assists by the dozens.
timvp is singlehandedly destroying my darius hopes
Hopefully Ian has turned a corner, and could maybe be thought of for next year.
TIMVP
What would you do next year with a big rotation of Ian, Oberto, Splitter and Duncan.
Would you
trade any one of the above (sans duncan of course) or would you try and rotate them all through?
What about Bonner?
And I'm guessing you're assuming the Spurs let Elson walk?
The bigman rotation next year seems extremely cluttered. Splitter will be brought over but there's a chance that all the other current bigs stay on board. Even Horry has hinted recently he might not want to retire at season's end. And Elson has time to salvage his season.
That said, I think you keep Mahinmi in D-League for another year. If Elson walks, you fill his role with Splitter. Eventually Splitter takes over for Oberto but that'd probably be a couple years down the line. If Horry leaves, you fill that hole permanently with Bonner ... even though Bonner doesn't give a lot of what Horry can bring to the table.
However, it's really tough to tell. If Horry and Elson play well enough to bring back, Splitter is brought over and Mahinmi shows he's ready for the NBA next season ... that'd be a problem.
But a good problem.
Based on Mahinmi's comments when he got sent down, and his ability to flat-out dominate games (albeit not on a consistent basis) in the D-league this year, I would think he would be EXTREMELY dissatisfied if he's not with the big league ball club next year and contributing in some way.The bigman rotation next year seems extremely cluttered. Splitter will be brought over but there's a chance that all the other current bigs stay on board. Even Horry has hinted recently he might not want to retire at season's end. And Elson has time to salvage his season.
That said, I think you keep Mahinmi in D-League for another year. If Elson walks, you fill his role with Splitter. Eventually Splitter takes over for Oberto but that'd probably be a couple years down the line. If Horry leaves, you fill that hole permanently with Bonner ... even though Bonner doesn't give a lot of what Horry can bring to the table.
However, it's really tough to tell. If Horry and Elson play well enough to bring back, Splitter is brought over and Mahinmi shows he's ready for the NBA next season ... that'd be a problem.
But a good problem.
It's not that I disagree with you, because I actually think more "seasoning" and learning against D-league compe ion would only help Mahinmi, but I could see that being a source of conflict in the future.
Here's hoping the Spurs let Elson walk and that Horry retires (with 8 rings)
I would let Elson go and Horry will most likely retire.
I would put Mahinmi in the rotation and send Splitter down to the D-League.
The following year I would divide the minutes up between Duncan/Oberto/Splitter/Mahinmi/Bonner how the minutes are divided among Duncan/Oberto/Horry/Bonner/Elson.
I would personally sign and trade Elson for whoever wanted him.
Horry can play as long as he wants to. Hes not showing any signs of being worthless and needing to step aside.
Splitter is a given.
Mahinmi, all depends IMO on how his IQ improves. If hes way smarter than elson, than he could be a DAMN good player.
Bonner, depends on how he finishes the season.
The guy has been playing in euro pro leagues and WCs since he was 17.I would put Mahinmi in the rotation and send Splitter down to the D-League.
he aint comin over to play in a fifth rate basketball league.
he could stay in europe for another year makin a couple mill and play better comp.
He comes over, hes in the regular rotation. Period.
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