Horry and Elson for Wilcox. Or Horry and Oberto for Wilcox
The reason I like any trade involving Barry is that it is not easy to get a good/ok level players without including Barry's salary. He has got nice expiring contract.
You might not get good/ok level players easily for let us say 2 million. That is why it is hard to get a decent return on trade by involving players like Finley (getting around 1.5 and 2 million). Interestingly the opposite of it also true. So Barry's salary is kind of at the right place.
Elson for antoine wright and marcus williams(pg) from NJ
And New Jersey will ask for a screwdriver up the ass!
out of sheer embarrassment, yes.
1. Possibly. Expiring contract for expiring contracts.
2. Pipe dream! If the Wiz want cap space, they'll just let Atwan Jamison come off the books. Not to mention how productive Haywood has been and how GREAT his contract is. Dream on.
3. No way. Only way this could happen is if the Pacers were DESPERATE to cut payroll. Even if that were true, why would they want to get rid of their GOOD contracts? Im sure they're much more willing to part with Murphy or Dunleavy than those guys.
4. Miki Moore has been the Kings' most productive big man he has the GOOD contract! You want a King? Brad Miller's a better possibility.
5. This one's possible.
6. Elson and pick for Noah? Are you serious?If the Bulls want to trade Noah, Im sure they can get MUCH better offers than Elson and a Spurs pick. Don't think anyone else wants a 7 foot rookie who can rebound like no other and plays with intensity?
7. No.
8. No.
I didn't think it was a legit idea this morning, but the Battier trade would make a lot of sense for Houston. The more I've thought about this, the more logical it seems. And I like the idea because Battier for Barry works straight up. That would still allow us to shop Elson and/or Bonner for another big.
But I think Houston will try to move T-Mac first and then, based on the pieces they get back, evaluate Battier.
Rockets'd be nuts to give up Battier. Nuts.
JR Smith is freakin' crazy. He's a kid who grew up rich that tries to pretend he's Tupac reincarnate. Unless he turns his life around, he could be dead within five years.
That said, I'd take him in a heart beat. He's an athlete who can shoot the ball. He's been around long enough that it's not unreasonable that he could help right away. His skillset is exactly the type that could jump start this team -- and his stock is at an all-time low.
The truth is Battier is not at all a good fit in Adelman's system. His numbers are down across the board. And he's on the hook for 4 years... I'd shed the cap, and create time for Wells, Landry, Hayes and Scola. There is a case to be made for moving him for an expiring cap and a pick.
As a Spurs fan, I think he's overpaid and overextended for our cap projections. But desperate times call for desperate measures. And we'd still need to bring in another big (aside from Mahinmi and Splitter) another point and, perhaps, another 2 this offseason.
LMAO!
The Rockets are going to trade Battier to a division rival for Brent Barry?
"Dream on.....Dream on"
- Steven Tyler
Here's a thought, no one in the western conference is going to trade any player with an upside to the Spurs.
Especially not for Brent Barry or Francisco Elson.
Unless you guys want Marcus Banks? We'll trade ya him straight up for Elson!
I agree some ppl need to get back to reality
Bonner for Scola, maybe?
The only way I'd want J.R. Smith is if we could unload Bonner's dead weight contract in the process, which I doubt. Otherwise, I pass.
Latrell Sprewel. Get it done
There are rumors that the Bucks want to trade Charlie Villanueva. He has a lot of upside.
I'm sure the Bucks would like to clear cap space. A guy like Elson who is coming off the books might be someone they'd be interested in.
agreed... the Bulls used a pretty high draft pick on him... I don't think they'll let him go that easily...
That would be nice. Realistically we'd have to include 2-3 future first round picks and Elson and maybe even more picks. Last year Villanueva was traded for TJ Ford straight up. We definately don't have even half the value TJ ford had last year.
Villanueva's trade value is not that high right now. I think they'd be fine with Elson and a pick.
They also want to trade Dan Gadzuric and Bobby Simmons who are on big, long-term contracts relative to their talent-level.
I'm sure they can get someone to bite on taking one of those contracts if they dangle Villanueva along with him.
JR Smith. Trade for him, the Spurs must.
Agreed...
DO IT, POP MUST!
Villanueva is their 5th best player. He only makes 2.7 million this year, what makes you think his value has gone down? Yes his scoring averages has dipped down from 11.8 to 9.3, but he only gets paid 2.7 million and is one of the few players in the league that can play the 5, 4, and 3. I like the idea I just don't think its reasonable trading a young player with a high ceiling just so you can save 3 million. They could get a lot better offers if he was on the block. I have yet to see rumors where it says Bucks are listening to offers for Villanueva. I'd imagine they would try to use him to get rid of Gadzuric and Simmons ridiculous contracts. Something Spurs can't afford to do.
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