Reply With Quote
I can see Kurt Thomas and potentially Jeff Foster, but not the rest.
Does Bonner have any trade value?
Here's a few trade proposals I'd consider...Tell me what you think
Barry/ Elson for Kurt Thomas ...why would sonics do it? I heard on Mark Stein tonight on ESPN say that the Sonics are pleased with the work he has done for them, and would consider trading him to a contender out of respect. As long as it doesn't hurt them financially in the coming years as they try to rebuild ( as long as they get back expiring contracts). Yes trading Barry might be tough to let go, but he has become expendable with Udoka's play as of late.
Barry and a pick for Brendon Haywood .. Just a thought. Haywood has 2 years left after this year for roughly 11 million. Therefore it wouldn't effect the 2010 plan. If we were too trade Barry's contract alone for a big man. I would consider Elson being dealt for insurance on the wing.
Barry and Elson and a pick for Jeff Foster Shawne Williams and Oriene Greene. Not sure if Pacers are desperate to clear 8 million off their cap. But they could be.
Barry and 2nd rounder for Mikki Moore. Both have expiring contracts. I highly doubt Kings are willing to resign Mikki Moore after this year with the contracts of Abdur-Rahim, Kenny Thomas, and Brad Miller exceeding 25 million next year. Again after a deal like this I'd send Elson for a 5th wing.
Barry and Elson for Mark Blount and Smush Parker. Why? Heat are desperate to shave off cap space ASAP. Then again they might have second thoughts. The way I see it even with Mark Blount's 2 more years for 15 million. Spurs are only going to be able to sign players this offseason with the MLE anyway even with all the expiring contracts and this wouldn't effect the 2010 plan.
Elson and a 1st round pick for Joakim Noah. We all know the chemistry issues this rookie has stirred in Chicago. You never know.
Barry Elson and 1st round pick for Chris Wilcox. They are in rebuilding mode and refused to give Wilcox a long-term deal. Mine as well get an extra 1st round pick for a rental for another year.
Barry and a 1st round pick for Joe Smith. Pretty sure he's making his last run and isn't in Chicago's future financial plans with Deng and Gordon's desired paychecks.
I can see Kurt Thomas and potentially Jeff Foster, but not the rest.
Does Bonner have any trade value?
so you're not a big Barry fan then
The way I see it, Finley and Horry took paycuts and came here. Out of loyalty I just don't realistically seeing us trading either of them. Realistically I see us trading Barry or Elson more than anyone. I like Barry I just think he is expendable as a 5th wing. We need to get Duncan some help inside.
This works for me. It's a quick fix and it would help the team get younger. I don't think though, that the bulls would let go of Noah that easyElson and a 1st round pick for Joakim Noah. We all know the chemistry issues this rookie has stirred in Chicago. You never know.
I think Barry took less than market value to come here too
teh washington wizards current problem atm
i read on hoopshype, jamison is expiring contract of 16m, and then the fiasco of resignin ARENAS, if both are not resigned wizards have 33m payroll only....would they want to shed payroll with BRENDAS contract of 11m/2 yrs...
problem with PACERS, if they can get rid of JOs contract, i can see them rebuilding this summer, but for the pieces we want from them, is highly unlikely GREEN and WILLIAMS is added to the piece, we should go back to the drawing board, and see what was the original offer when they were interested in BARRY and fillers for FOSTER...his the only player i would like to be on the spurs....
Mikki Moore is underrated, he has his good games sometimes, and lookn at getting paid, anthing more than the MLE is overpayin for his services. I think the KINGS will resign him since he and beno are the reason why they were winning games when BIBBY and MARTINS was out....KINGS could be in for some trades also since they are trying to get rid of ARTEST and BIBBY if the right deal comes along
A trade with the HEAT? gtfo only bigs i want on that team is probably haslem who is on a real cheap contract
a trade to chicago for joe smith for barry and first round pick is just to much to give up for IMO....
If I remember correctly Barry got the MLE. Kings offered him one more year, not more money. It was the Spurs or the Kings. He chose us for 4 years instead of 5 with the kings. Like I said I like Barry and his commercials, I just think realistically if we are going to make a trade Barry and or Elson will be involved. Thats why they were in every one.
Kings signed Mikki Moore to a three year deal.
And, Seattle would ask for much more for Chris Wilcox.
Hoopshype has him on a one year deal. My mistake even if it was a 3 year deal I'd consider it. It's not like we are going to have more than the MLE to spend the for the next two summers anyway.
i think this trade makes sense with the HAWKS
barry or whatever
for
zaza pachulia 4m this season and 4m 08/09 remaining,
sheldon williams whose on a rookie contract with 3m next season and a team option in 09/10, player option 10/11
sheldon williams a 250lbs 6'9 PF/C who probably can help us when there is small ball lineups against us, even though his foul prone, he blocks shots and rebs well
pachulia 263lbs 6'11 C
There's no way they include Sheldon Williams for nothing to show for it in 08/09. And for Pachulia, he brings what Oberto brings( has average at best post defense, horrible at defending the paint and the bucket), and he doesn't have a clue on the difference between a good shot and a bad one. In other words he's more a chucker than anything in a big mans body.
If the Spurs are going to make a trade, it'd be a trade that flipped an expiring contract for a younger player with a longer contract on a team wanting to clear cap space. For example, the Spurs made a run at Kyle Korver ... who'd fit exactly into this scenario.
Trades that make sense to me:
Barry plus a pick for Shane Battier -- Battier has mostly need a disappointment for the Rockets this year. Adelman would probably welcome a move that got more time for Bonzi Wells. This could become more likely if the Rockets fall out of the playoff picture and want to shed some salary.
Barry, Elson and picks for Udonis Haslem and Smush Parker -- Heat get to dump salary. Spurs get a mobile big that could make a living next to Duncan.
Barry for Jason Kapono - The Spurs went after another one dimensional shooter with a bad contract (Korver), so why not his twin brother? Kapono lost his starting job and the Raptors may want to open up more consistent time for players like Moon and Delfino.
Barry, Elson plus picks for Andre Miller - If Parker is going to be hobbled for the rest of the year, Miller is probably the best point guard available who might be had in a salary dump.
barry -> shane : but who will our 3rd string pg be?
barry -> j.kap : why not delfino?
barry -> miller : hmm.....maybe, maybe....i like barry better.
do any of you think it's possible to get hermann?
I was thinking of realistic trades.
I've always liked Battier. But in reality I really don't see Rockets giving up anyone except for Mike James/ Kirk Snyder/ or CHuck Hayes with the emergence of Carl Landry. Just my opinion Rockets could get a lot more better offers for Battier.
If the Heat were unwilling to part with Haslem to get Mike Bibby what makes you think they would part with Haslem for Barry and Elson?
and If those last two scenarios did go through who's minutes would they take?
I'd kill for Haslem by the way.
Email the league:
"We are keeping the Big Three. Everyone else is expendable. Make an offer."
Out of all those scenarios this one would help the most. I like our wings and bigs as is. This trade or the Smush and Udonis trade would both benefit the Spurs.
Vaughn and Finley for a DQ Hunger Buster
i dont think we need to pull another trade with the rockets
barry for delfino is a huge downgrade, a guy who cant get into the raptors rotation, what next? whine on teh spurs his not gettin minutes?
herman? fabio v.2 no thanks
only trade now that makes sense is to strike a deal with the bulls for nocioni + a big maybe noah or griffin/gray either one would do, for our expirings and draft picks
they shed payroll to sign the extentions 2 most overhype players who didnt deliver this season ben gordan and deng
I go for the battier trade. I always wanted shane in the spurs. He's a young bruce bowen in my books. But I don't see the light of day on this one. The rockets rely heavily on shane on so many things (like defense and 3pt shooting). He would be welcome though, if ever he wanna ride with us.
sorry, but is there a special benefit for a team if it trades with the Spurs??
yes, all the mentioned players are probably availabe. but if this players are put on the market, other team can (and will) offer better packages.
Noah for Elson plus a pick (which as usual isn't a very good one). what a crap.
and if you didn't notice: Noah has seen his minutes doubled in the last two weeks.
Foster for Barry is somehow realistic, but you think the Pacers just trow in a young promising talent on a cheap rookie contract????? jezzzz
How are you going to dog on those players and then ask if getting Hermann is possible!
Also I dont think the Spurs should deal with the rockets anymore.
Well duh those are better scenarios, I was thinking realistically. what about these scenarios
..Barry Elson for Nocioni and Noah..
or what about Barry and Elson for Josh Smith and Zaza Pachulia..
or even Barry and Elson for Andrew Bogut and Charlie Bell...
Just my opinion on the realistic side of those proposals.
Is there really a market for a role playing defender who gets paid a lot of money for a lot of years? What types of teams would be going after him? I don't think his trade value is that high this year considering his offense has fallen off.
Because Bibby isn't an expiring contract. Riley has talked about opening up salary cap room this summer. To do so they'd have to trade Haslem for expiring contracts. Although it's likely the Heat would hold out until they found someone to take Haslem and Blount for expiring contracts.
Kapono would play the Barry role and if you would read what I said next to the Miller trade, you'd see that I was talking about a scenario where the Spurs needed to replace a hobbled Parker.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
