addidas - I hear you. I had those same doubts until her friends started going on about how she tried to commit suicide, attention straved, etc...
It take someone who knows they are telling the truth or someone with serious issues to come foward. She could easily be either, one of them, or both.
Just curious Cleva. How do you believe all those stories ^^^ but anything against Kobe that comes out of Vail you have deemed "leaks and lies"?I had those same doubts until her friends started going on about how she tried to commit suicide, attention straved, etc...
I think he raped her. Because if she was just golddigging why go to the police? she could have just been paid to keep quiet and got a $$$ out of it.
scoopQuestion: If a 19-year-old plotted to get dough from Kobe, why did she go public by which to make her a moving target? Scheming minds would have gone directly to Kobe via her attorney to force a pay off.
Question: If a girl were going after the cash, why tell all to the police? Get the money and then go home to count the take.
2Cleva, and Kori,
I've taken the stance that I don't believe ANYTHING that comes from the media concerning statements from person's other than Kobe or this woman. To me, everything else is just rumor and speculation.
And Aggie brings up a great point. Everyone who says that Kobe doesn't seem like the kind of person who would do something like this needs to reexamine their thinking. Heck, I never thought Kobe would be the type of person who would commit adultery. So if that was proven wrong, who is to say that he would not rape someone?
It's not like men out there have "potential raper" written across their forehead. These instances usually happen when everyone least expects it.
Laker homers are disgusting in this thread. If the victim was your sister or your friend, you'd think of this differently.
Don't apologize for him when all we know for sure so far is he cheated on his wife and could have raped that girl.
The sickest part is if this was a Spur, the same Laker fans would be in here calling him a rapist.
Most recently, ESPN and ABC News reported that Kobe gave conflicting statements to the police when the incident first occurred. Suggestions of a less-than-truthful Kobe only adds to the general erosion of his image in the public eye.
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Kori is a hater. he he he
Kobe did not do it everybody. I was in the hotel room under the bed. I saw the whole thing. My account will be in the Vail Daily tomorrow morning.
Seriously I wouldn't put it past this chick to run face-first into a wall so she'd have some marks to show or maybe she went "fight club" and started beating herself up. Whatever. Nobody knows. Unless they have hard evidence linking bruises other than in the sexual areas to Kobe, he's going to walk.
As for lying, he did what any man would do that got caught cheating. I don't now her. Ok, I flirted with her. Ok, I slept with her. What man would not follow that same path if caught? In fact, most men would just deny until the end, but in this case, there are police and a case involved so Kobe couldn't do what any man would do. Seems logical to me.
That being said, If Kobe raped this girl, I hope he never sees the light of day again.
timvp - If it was personal, of course I'd feel different. Its a lot easier to be objective when there is no emotional attachment.
Same thing about Iverson last summer. But if he's guilty he deserves punisgment. I'm just not convicting him before the court does. Innocent until proven guilty still means something to me.
ducks - Again, bad for Kobe if thats true. But more than one report out of Vail has proven to be false and the DA said that Kobe was "extremely cooperative" in his initial press conference.
Kori is a hater. he he heHi Hollywood.
I guess you missed it when I said that I felt sorry for Kobe at his press conference. I really want to believe him.
TimVP, get a clue. The fact remains that the victim is not my sister or friend, and I don't know WHAT happened up there in Vail. I'm not convicting either Kobe or the woman right now, because I don't know what happened. As far as Kobe commiting adultery, happens. That falls in line with my belief that marriage really shouldn't exist. But that's for another topic at another time and place.
It's my hope that a crime wasn't commited at all, but if one was, than the guilty needs to punished accordingly.
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That's a little harsh TimVP... the fact is we're not related to this girl, don't know how credible her story is, and don't know anything about the situation other than what has been admitted. Kobe screwed up, that much I know... I'm not excusing that behavior, but until there is a guilty verdict handed down, I'm going to trust in his innocence. You're wanting us to immediately believe her story and dismiss anything pro-Kobe... as Kobe fans and knowing more about him than we do this girl, well, I'm just not going to do that.
And I for one would most certainly NOT be calling anyone a rapist prior to a conviction regardless of what jersey they wear.
what's with the
if it was your daughter or sister points of view...
of course we'd take there side...
and if it was my son who told me that he did not rape this girl, and she's lying, guess what, i'd be on his side.....
obviously i'd be pissed at my son for putting himself in that situation in the first place...
BUT
i'd be equally pissed at my daughter for putting herself in that situation as well....
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Will the Lakers have to post sex offender signs at Staples Center?
Bottomline NO ONE nows what happen.So I think its absurd and premature to say Kobe is guilty or not.
well I know one thing he is gulity of having ateast sex with the one pressing charges. and buying his wife 4 million dollar ring in trying to ask forgiveness
Although that's the way it looks, you don't KNOW that that is the reason he bought her that ring.and buying his wife 4 million dollar ring in trying to ask forgiveness
His dumbass should have never gotten married in the first place.
I do not follow why you think marriage is wrong and stupid
just because some people can not make it work. others can and it is not that bad. it takes 2 commited people. but it is special and can work.
Ducks, this has nothing to do with how I feel about marriage. I just think Kobe was too young to get married, PERIOD. He was 21 (or 22) when he tied the know. No one should get married before the age of 30, in my opinion.
Most married men cheat on their wives. That is a fact of life.
I know quite a few married men that would completely disagree with youMost married men cheat on their wives. That is a fact of life
MOST is a little strong, don't you think, Tlong.Most married men cheat on their wives. That is a fact of life.
Maybe "most" applies to married men in the backwoods of Ory-gone, but not to the general population. But then again, most married men in Oregon are merely cheating on their sisters anyway. . .and if cousin Melba ain't tellin'. . .well. . .it probbly ain't really cheatin' now is it?
No one should get married before the age of 30, in my opinion.
And this is because??
It's because I don't think adults are mature enough until that age, for the most part. During your twenties, you change so much, personally and professionally, that you don't really gain a true sense of who you are until you hit your thirties.
Especially someone who is only 21 or 22. It's been proven that the divorce rates for couples who get married under the age of 28 compared to over the age of 28 is a HUGE difference. (with the under having a larger percentage of divorces)
All my friends were married before 30 and are still going strong.
My husband was just about to turn 22 when we got married and I had just turned 24. We've been married for 13-1/2 years. We had our kids before we turned 30. If anything, it matured us.
There's no magical age when maturity happens.
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