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  1. 02-13-2008 #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by nkdlunch
    they immeadiately upgrade the team a couple of grade levels.
    I don't see it. I'll have to check the salaries. The only way this makes a lot of sense is if they save money down the line for a re-loading. They're not doing anything with the roster as is.
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  2. 02-13-2008 #52
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    So Suns have trade Marion and Mavs will maybe trade Harris ....
    Parker will have some fun during these playoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurminator
    Your matchup analyses are based in a vacuum where you compare players individually based on overall talent.

    If you watched the Mavericks handle the Spurs the last few years you would understand why these matchups are more relevant.

    It's not just that. He immediately discounts every Spur without "Duncan" on the back of his jersey while assuming that their counterpart is as good as ESPN told him they were.

    Casper is such a historical curiosity, like Castro. He continues to rule Cuba, but it's the same old Cuba as 10 years ago. Just smells a little worse.
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  4. 02-13-2008 #54
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    Stack isn't very good anymore. Its basically Kidd for Devin Harris. Harris is good but Kidd is the more experienced and better all around pg.

    Good for NJ in the future. Good for Dallas now
    I'd take stack over anyone they've got coming off the bench.

    You look at their five after this

    Diop
    Boone
    Jefferson
    Carter
    Harris


    Thats a solid lineup.

    the bench of Williams, Stackhouse, George, and whoever else, dunno who they have.

    Thats a solid solid team for the east.

    The west? It would get blown out, but the east, they are definately a playoff contender now.
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  5. 02-13-2008 #55
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    Check the NBA forum. One guys says its done
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  6. 02-13-2008 #56
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    Cuban smokes crack!!!


    ps Ghostwriter also...
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  7. 02-13-2008 #57
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    The Nets trade All-Star point guard Jason Kidd and Malik Allen to the Mavericks for Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, Devean George, DeSagana Diop, two first-round picks and cash, sources tell Tony Mejia of CBSSports.com.
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  8. 02-13-2008 #58
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    Wow they don't even get Darrell Armstrong.

    Wich, wouldn't have changed that at all.


    YES!!!!



    Thank you Cuban for finally fing up.
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  9. 02-13-2008 #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno
    So Suns have trade Marion and Mavs will maybe trade Harris ....
    Parker will have some fun during these playoffs.

    Exactly. Now what would make sense would be to see if they can find a better rebounding big in a trade with some combination of their expiring contracts. Stoudemire + a resurgent Vaughn don't leave much concerns as far as the backup 1.
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  10. 02-13-2008 #60
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    Now matchups matter.

    And Harris is nowhere near the player Kidd is.

    Another contender gets better.

    Spurs don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T Park
    He wasn't their problem in 02 and 03, he played awesome in the playoffs.

    His problem is the same as David Robinson's was before 99.

    The team around him wasn't good enough.

    Dude still can't shoot.

    , he couldn't shoot in 2003 when the Spurs had a hard-on for him.

    Yes he's a great player and has a definite impact on the game. But I could never get over the Spurs over-infatuation with him.

    Seems to me that Parker turned out to be pretty good. After all, the Spurs have two more les with Parker being a significant contributor to both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
    Now matchups matter.

    And Harris is nowhere near the player Kidd is.

    Another contender gets better.

    Spurs don't.

    Another contender makes their team easier for the Spurs to defeat in the postseason.

    Better run fast or the sky will land on you.
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    I will gladly take Kidd posting up on TP than HArris blowing by him and kidd's jumpshot is nowhere near automatic...As far as Stack and Diop leaving this is good news as well..This def. hleps the spurs
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    Two Western Conference teams that arent as big a threat to beat us in the playoffs now.


    Tell me this isnt true?


    Sign the dotted line Cuban.
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  15. 02-13-2008 #65
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    I agree Kidd can't shoot but he is a great floor general.
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    I will gladly take Kidd posting up on TP than HArris blowing by him and kidd's jumpshot is nowhere near automatic
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt's Cat
    Another contender makes their team easier for the Spurs to defeat in the postseason.

    Better run fast or the sky will land on you.
    Let me get this straight...

    You think LA, Phoenix and potentially Dallas will all be easier to beat by obtaining Gasol, O'Neal and Kidd respectively?

    Kill yourself.
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  18. 02-13-2008 #68
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    man, this is the best news that i've heard in a while. cuban, thanks for being you. i knew dallas would make a panic trade

    TP torched JKidd when he was with the Nets and now he will do the same when JKidd is on the Mavs. One less western conference foe to worry about.
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    Maybe the spurs plan all along was to sit bakc and watch teams panic and dismantle their teams...Only team that has benefited in trades so far are the lakers and I would love to meet up with them in the playoffs just like old times..
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    Yeah Cuban returned to pre 2005 for with this trade.

    This reeks of Jamison and Antoine Walker all over again.

    Getting names by gutting the core of his team.


    Nice job Mark
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  21. 02-13-2008 #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by yavozerb
    Maybe the spurs plan all along was to sit bakc and watch teams panic and dismantle their teams...Only team that has benefited in trades so far are the lakers and I would love to meet up with them in the playoffs just like old times..


    Spurs will stay put. Beat everyone in the post season. Call it a day. Business as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
    Let me get this straight...

    You think LA, Phoenix and potentially Dallas will all be easier to beat by obtaining Gasol, O'Neal and Kidd respectively?

    Kill yourself.
    Look at who Phoenix and Dallas gave up. Which teams have given the Spurs the most trouble in the postseason over the last two years? This isn't rocket science.

    Popd@mn.

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    be careful what you wish for, spursfans.
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  24. 02-13-2008 #74
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    Once i saw Harris was a part of this deal, i was relieved. Kidd is not what he was and Harris plays very well against the Spurs. Plus they gave up one of their key big men on D, bad trade for the Mavs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yavozerb
    Maybe the spurs plan all along was to sit bakc and watch teams panic and dismantle their teams...Only team that has benefited in trades so far are the lakers and I would love to meet up with them in the playoffs just like old times..
    agree. and i think we can take the lakers in a hard fought 7 game series.
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