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    Again, the Spurs could luck out and find themselves able to land better talent than what they are sending out
    Barry and Udrih for Maggette was that type of trade and they turned it down.

    So I really don't know anymore.

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    Barry and Udrih for Maggette was that type of trade and they turned it down.

    So I really don't know anymore.

    The only way the Spurs get themselves into that kind of situation is if they are willing to take back a really bad contract, so bad that a team is willing to give up a really good player for the cap flexibility (or lux tax reduction) that trade would create for them. Maybe that's available.

    , there's always the Knicks.

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    Yeah shame Zeke couldn't trade Lee and Balkman.

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    Barry and Udrih for Maggette was that type of trade and they turned it down.

    So I really don't know anymore.
    K. Thomas is borderline for me. I can rationalize it, because we'll be locked into him for just next year and can always dangle him in a trade as an expiring contract.

    I was really hoping for a more impact player in a deal.

    That said, if we don't make a trade, who's to say that the front office can get any decent this summer anyway?

    Cap manuevarbility doesn't guarantee anything.

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    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=4505450

    Barry and Elson for Rose and Lee.

    3 reasons:
    1. Zeke's the GM.
    2. It does reduce payroll.
    3. Zeke's the GM.

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    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=4505450

    Barry and Elson for Rose and Lee.

    3 reasons:
    1. Zeke's the GM.
    2. It does reduce payroll.
    3. Zeke's the GM.
    You told me long ago that NY Knicks don't care about the cap.

    D. Lee is the lone hustler (not hustla) on that Popforsaken team.


    I'll take K. Thomas. Who the Spurs gonna woo in the summer with exception? Nobody.

    F' it.

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    You told me long ago that NY Knicks don't care about the cap.

    D. Lee is the lone hustler (not hustla) on that Popforsaken team.


    I'll take K. Thomas. Who the Spurs gonna woo in the summer with exception? Nobody.

    F' it.

    Maybe they care about payroll now. Hey, it's the Knicks. This would be a classic Isaiah move.

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    Barry and Elson for Malik and David Lee?

    I'll personally drive Barry and Elson to the damn airport.

    I was really hoping for a more impact player in a deal.
    No one is gonna give the Spurs an impact player after the Spurs have won 3 in 5 years.


    Kurt Thomas would make a HUGE impact on this team just from his defense, rebounding, and offense he can bring to the table.

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    Who the Spurs gonna woo in the summer with exception? Nobody
    Corey Maggette, James Jones.

    I don't have the list in front of me, but theres some interesting names.

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    The Spurs are in a position to be "Popportunistic" before the trade deadline. The Spurs have on the order of $15 million in expiring contracts (Elson+Barry = approx $9 million themselves). Teams seem to be willing to give up talent that is tied to bad contracts. The Spurs aren't set to be under the cap anytime soon. Plus, the championship window is now.

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    The Spurs have shown a resistance to accepting bad contracts before unfortunately.

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    Barry and Elson for Malik and David Lee?

    I'll personally drive Barry and Elson to the damn airport.



    No one is gonna give the Spurs an impact player after the Spurs have won 3 in 5 years.


    Kurt Thomas would make a HUGE impact on this team just from his defense, rebounding, and offense he can bring to the table.
    I don't think teams respect the Spurs that much or give a d@mn anymore.

    It's a number game.

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    I don't think teams respect the Spurs that much or give a d@mn anymore.

    It's a number game.

    What? The Spurs are the defending champs and Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili aren't retiring anytime soon.

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    Corey Maggette, James Jones.

    I don't have the list in front of me, but theres some interesting names.
    Well, interest me then.

    J. Jones hasn't distinguished himself in this League and Maggette is nice... when he plays.

    Why does he remind me of D. Anderson and Q. Richardson before him?

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    Well, interest me then.

    J. Jones hasn't distinguished himself in this League and Maggette is nice... when he plays.

    Why does he remind me of D. Anderson and Q. Richardson before him?

    Who's going to give the Spurs an All-Star for Francisco Elson?

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    im not sure where everyone is getting their info, but from everything that i can gather, KT is an expiring contract. shamsports, storytellers, espn, even hoopshype lists him as an expiring contract. the only online source i can find that lists his contract as expiring next year is patricia benders site. and while she is usually pretty reliable, the overwhelming amount of evidence in the contrary is enough to sway me. seattle fans themselves believe/know KT to be a free agent this summer.

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    Who's going to give the Spurs an All-Star for Francisco Elson?
    No one.

    I am scoffing at holding out for the free agents mentioned so far.

    I would trade for immediate veteran help with 2 or less years remaining

    or

    Wait until the summer and bring in a mix of potential and a veteran hole-filler.

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    No one.

    I am scoffing at holding out for the free agents mentioned so far.

    I would trade for immediate veteran help with 2 or less years remaining

    or

    Wait until the summer and bring in a mix of potential and a veteran hole-filler.

    They will have the MLE and the LLE in the summer, so you're basically looking at a solid vet ala Barry back in 2004 at the MLE level and a younger guy like a Udoka at the LLE level.

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    They will have the MLE and the LLE in the summer, so you're basically looking at a solid vet ala Barry back in 2004 at the MLE level and a younger guy like a Udoka at the LLE level.
    Like I said, if you trade and can't get an impact player, you better make it an established veteran that can help in the playoffs and who doesn't have a deal that goes past '09.

    Otherwise, don't deal and get a young dude with potential and the typical veteran minimum hole-fillers this summer.

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    The main way to get potential is to draft it. Perhaps you can find someone like Jack available again, but that's somewhat rare.

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    J. Jones hasn't distinguished himself in this League
    yeah hes only leading the league in 3 point %.

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    What the Spurs ought to do is find a situation in which they can find a team ready to move a contract for earlier cap relief and are willing to pay a 1st round pick to do it. That's what the Knicks did in the Rose-Mohammed trade a few years back and it worked out for them.

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    Well, I would also do this trade. It would give the Spurs a solid low post defender who can knock down a jumpshot. He would help against LA, that is for sure.

    If Splitter comes over this summer the Spurs would have a great frontline with:

    Splitter/Thomas/ Oberto
    TD/ Bonner/ Mahinmi

    That is a lot of depth with experience and youth (and Duncan in between)

    Add this with TP/ Manu/ Udoka/Bowen/Vaughn and you play to win it all again. There would be a little hole at the SG spot but they would have the MLE and LLE to close that gap. Well see what happens with the trading deadline only a week away...

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    It would be nice with the first rounder to find a good SG to get in the draft, but the Spurs knack of drafting is unfortunately not what it once was.

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