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Kurt Thomas | PF/C
Born: Oct 4, 1972
Height: 6-9 / 2,06
Weight: 235 lbs. / 106,6 kg.
College: Texas Christian
Years Pro: 12
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Would allow Seattle to shed some payroll with Thomas' salary in the vicinity of $9 million for 2008-09, the last year of his contract. Barry was a popular player during his time in Seattle. Thomas makes sense for the Spurs as he gives them a better rebounding big up front with TD and someone who can knock down the 18 foot jumper.
YES YES YES
1 1/2 towers is better than what we currently got.... pull the trigger on this trade!
He 35... this matches the Shaq and (stillborn) Kidd moves.
Though without moving any significant rotation players. Plus this would be a clear net positive for the Spurs for this season.
He's also a pretty good post defender who did a good job 1 on 1 against Tim last year. If nothing else a trade like this would keep him out of enemy hands, but he'd be an upgrade on defense over Oberto or Elson if we have to play LA and/or Phoenix.
Although if this were to happen I'm sure we'd be swamped with Lakers fans calling making a deal with Presti collusion.
I do not want Tim Thomas here... I just don't like the guy. Just my opinion. Never liked him, don't want him in the silver and black... however, I'd love to see wilcox here instead. He's got a significantly smaller contract as well.
Wilcox wouldn't be available for Barry+Elson.
I'd go for that. My wife, the Knicks fan, would love it. She calls him and his crazy eyes "Psycho Killer".
So don't bring in someone that improves the team just because "you don't like him"
Come on.
Short term, this would be a positive trade, no doubt. Long term, I would prefer Haslam or Tyrus Thomas. But if we could land Kurt Thomas, then fine.
I wonder if Thomas would resign with us at vet minumum, or inexpensively, next season. If that were the case I think the Spurs would jump at this. I'm actually surprised that Thomas hasn't been moved yet--Presti must be holding out until the last minute to see what he can get.
Also, if the Spurs can find a taker for Bonner then I think they should move him too, even if only for an expiring deal. In theory, Bonner should be a good fit with the Spurs. But he simply hasn't worked on the court and Pop has straight Benoed him the last month. That's a bad sign. I'm rooting for Bonner (BYC) to NY for Balkman, but I know we're not playing fantasy sports here. Still, it makes some sense for both teams.
I don't like him, but I also don't think he improves us.
Unless we can get a piece with potential and semi-youth (mid-late 20's), I don't see much value in packaging Barry. I think he's still of some value to the diversity of this team. If this is the best trade we can materalize, I'd rather stand pat.
Some sites say Thomas is a free agent this summer, others say he has a year remaining. If he is a free agent this summer, all the more better. Spurs would probably have to include a pick in the deal then.
Yeah, it is worrisome that Bonner is riding the bench as of late. Sure, Horry's back, but you would think he could beat out someone for PT.Also, if the Spurs can find a taker for Bonner then I think they should move him too, even if only for an expiring deal. In theory, Bonner should be a good fit with the Spurs. But he simply hasn't worked on the court and Pop has straight Benoed him the last month. That's a bad sign. I'm rooting for Bonner (BYC) to NY for Balkman, but I know we're not playing fantasy sports here. Still, it makes some sense for both teams.
You have to address needs. The Spurs' bigman rotation is weaker than their swingman rotation. The value of having a solid 4th big is greater than having a solid 4th 2 or 3.
I agree.
The Spurs don't need a good defensive bigman that can rebound and knock down the open jumper.
They are LOADED with em!!
I still hit my forehead over that Bonner resigning. Way too much money, waaay too many years. He's a nice guy but just not good. Strictly end-of-the-bench material (which is where he is right now).
New York won't trade for him. Isiah doesn't like white guys. Seriously. Just David Lee, he tolerates, but barely.
No one else will trade for Bonner, except in a trade for another asset.
Boy, did we screw up that one. Traded Nesterovic for expiring contracts in Eric Williams and Matt Bonner AND THEN WE RESIGNED ONE OF THEM. What a boneheaded move.
Well, they resigned one at $2 mil per. Not a major travesty. With Horry back it's inevitable that Bonner's minutes would be cut.
The larger issue is the Scola move, but that's been exhausted on here.
Not a major travesty, but who's signing John Crotty for $2 million for three seasons? Besides, it's over $2.6 this season, practically $3 million next, and then one more after that.
A young big who can shoot the rock for $2 mil is not John Crotty.
A 12th man who cannot play is John Crotty.
This looks to be Barry's last season, but if he's healthy enough to come back I think we should keep him unless we get youth in exchange, yes, even taking a chance again on that dumbass in Denver or someone else with big potential.
If we're talking about trading Bonner then I'm all for it (sadly) because as history has shown (Malik, Beno) once a player goes in the doghouse this bad it rarely ends well. We have to trade him before his value drops anymore. We need to make some sort of move to improve and with Horry getting better with more minutes we just aren't going to see Bonner again unless there's an injury. But if there's another significant injury on the team our chances or the le this year are probably screwed anyway so there's no point in playing it safe. I still have confidence in Bonner's ability, I just don't have hope for him getting a chance again under Pop or for his confidence to somehow improve under these cir stances.
What moves is that going to prevent? Plus, it's a bit too early to be writing his epitaph.
He can play, he has Horry in front of him.
We got Udoka for $1 million and he's quite good. Nose for the ball. Heady defender. Does little things.
How did we not overpay for Bonner? Who was gonna spend anywhere near what we spent on him?
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