League to look at Stackhouse's comments

[tav1]

I hope the league fines Dallas and New Jersey and penalizes each a draft pick, but that they allow the trade to go through. Or, that the Spurs find some way to sneak Diop out of the deal.

[Shank]

Or, that the Spurs find some way to sneak Diop out of the deal.

How would that even happen?

[MoSpur]

I was wondering about his comments when I saw that interview. It was kind of weird to me.

[SenorSpur]

Without giving up too much, Avery has been tired of Cuban for about 3 years now. He had little say in this trade proposal and felt that Cuban gave up too much after hearing the names of those involved. He was willing to work with what they were getting back, but still didn't like the trade. There has been a behind the scenes tussle between them for a while now. I'm not even sure Don/Donnie could stand him much, either, but everyone just keeps their mouths shut and puts on a smiley face and goes about their business because we all know that Cuban can be a tyrant and has the final word on everything. Avery speaks up against him behind the scenes, but really - what can he do? I fear that he'll eventually get so tired of it that he'll walk and drag the team down even further.

You ever see the two together, shaking hands and talking? Referring to the "great work" the other does for the club? Nope.

That's why I don't think the trade falling through hurts the team as much as people would think. The players are going to be loyal to Avery (somewhat, though it seems they don't follow him as well now as when he first took over) far more than they will be to Cuban. For them, it's just something else that Cuban tried to do on his own rather than letting those he pays to do the work actually do so. Very "Jerry Jones", if you will.

Great stuff, man. It's not hard to imagine that, at some point over time, Cuban would start to "grate" on the nerves of his leadership staff. I never figured Cuban as the type who would delegate or trust his staff to do their jobs. You nailed it. It is very "Jerry Jones" like.

I'm curious as to how the players feel about Cuban? I figured they got along well with him because he spoils them rotten with tons of amenities, they're well-paid and Cuban is such a "jock-sniffing" groupie.

I live in the Dallas metro area and listen intently to the local sports talk. This is the first I've heard of this "behind the scenes" stuff. You must have some mole inside the Mavs organization.

[atxrocker]

rofl @ shank downplaying the out of this. yeah, if this falls through, there will be no chemistry problems whatsoever. get the out of here.

[waly.mg]

The Mavs in 2006 make NBA Finals, and go ahead 2-0
In 2007 1st in the Regular season and lost in 1st Round
Now:
There are The Spurs, Suns, Hornets, Lakers, Utah and Rockets playing better, only in the West

So Mark Cuban want to die An Irk Nowitzki is going to die ringless

I want ti see the mavs guarding Amare and Shaq, without Dirk on them

[mardigan]

Sources: Stackhouse's hint at return to Big D raises eyebrows
By Chris Broussard
ESPN The Magazine
(Archive)
Updated: February 15, 2008, 12:21 PM ET

Devean George's refusal to consent to being traded to the New Jersey Nets is not the only hindrance to the Jason Kidd-to-Dallas deal, according to several league sources.

Although there has been no public comment from the NBA on the matter, sources say that league officials are not pleased with Jerry Stackhouse's brazen announcement that he would soon return for a Mavericks playoff run if traded to New Jersey.

"I get 30 days to rest, then I'll be right back,'' Stackhouse told The Associated Press on Wednesday in response to the proposed trade. "I ain't going nowhere."

Stackhouse is referring to the widely reported assumption that New Jersey would immediately buy him out of his contract, which would allow him to re-sign with another team. Stackhouse's preference is to return to Dallas, but according to league rules he'd have to wait at least 30 days.

The 30-day rule was added to the league's collective bargaining agreement as a response to a trade between Boston and Atlanta in 2005. In that deal, Boston sent Gary Payton to Atlanta to reacquire Antoine Walker with the understanding that the Hawks would immediately waive Payton, who then re-signed with Boston three days later.

The league frowned on this move, and ins uted the 30-day rule. By flouting the rule so publicly, Stackhouse may have given the league no choice but to eliminate him from the deal or prevent the Mavericks from re-signing him.

"If Stackhouse had kept quiet, the league wouldn't have been able to prove anything,'' one Western Conference executive said. "Now, it's obvious that he talked to Mark Cuban about coming back to the Mavericks.''

One executive said the league is looking into the matter and could very well block Stackhouse from being involved in the trade. That could be a deal-breaker, because Cuban definitely wants Stackhouse back.

"Obviously, George needs to give his consent for the deal to happen, but the Stackhouse thing could now be a bigger problem than George,'' a person with knowledge of the teams' trade negotiations said.

Another executive said team owners have been calling commissioner David Stern to complain about the Stackhouse part of the deal and that several GMs would be incensed if he allows the trade to go through with Stackhouse in it.

"Every GM from a potential playoff team in the Western Conference is complaining about this,'' the executive said. "If the league allows this trade to go through, it'll have a major credibility issue on its hands. Our collective bargaining agreement's not worth anything if this goes through.''

Meanwhile, George's agent, Mark Bartelstein, told 1050 ESPN New York's Andrew Marchand that George would consider the trade if it would improve his situation.

"If he felt like his playing opportunity would be so much better in New Jersey than Dallas [he would consider it,]" Bartelstein said Friday morning. "He is starting in Dallas for a championship contender. New Jersey is rebuilding. He would have to give up his Larry Bird [free agent rights.] It has nothing to do with the Nets or not wanting to go to New Jersey."

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine. Andrew Marchand also contributed to this report.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3247183

[Shank]

rofl @ shank downplaying the out of this. yeah, if this falls through, there will be no chemistry problems whatsoever. get the out of here.

Then explain what exactly happens with these "chemistry" issues. Who gets hurt? Devin Harris is the one that this would largely effect, but will likely come out with a chip on his shoulder to prove his worth to the team. He loves playing in Dallas. Diop? Seriously? What's he going to do? He's a backup center and isn't exactly a vocal leader in the locker room. Stackhouse? - he wasn't planning on going anywhere anyway. And Devean George - if he stays, then it's up to Avery to decide how to use him. If he helps the team win games, then he'll play. If he can't, then he'll rot at the end of the bench and Avery will play guys (ie - Jones/Hassell) that can take his place.

I'm telling you that the divide between the players/Avery and Cuban was already there and that because this trade was Cuban's baby, he'll be the one that suffers most from the downfall. The players trust Avery and love playing for him. They'll come out of this fine.

[The III]

Who are you?

I'm a longtime Spur fan. Why?

[stxspurs]

spurs fan in exile.........best post today

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Now whenever somebody says something that stuffs up an agreement or relationship between 2 parties, it can be called a "Stackhouse"...

"Man, I was going really good with this chick, but then i said something so stackhouse and she won't speak to me anymore"

[MajicMan]

That's what Marc Cuban gets for talking smack about the Lakers and this trade committee bull . People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[hsxvvd]

This sort of stuff is very Spurs like, bending the rules (D-League) etc, but I guess other teams just aren't smart enough to pull it off. Same thing has happened in the past with Gary Payton in Boston and his trade to Atlanta I think. Even Payton was able to keep his mouth shut that time.

[41times]

The GM's can complain all they want. There is nothing the league can do because 30 days after the buyout Stack can sign with any team he wants. period. It his choice.

Stack just bought a house here in Dallas so he is not giong to sign elsewhere. Unless there is some team that wants to "over pay him"..

Whose to say that after 30 days the Rockets, who need some help to make it won't offer him a big salary and he could keep his home up here. Hey maybe the Spurs would offer him a deal? He's better than Finley!

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3247183

Now ESPN is saying the league has officially told Dallas that Stack isn't going to be part of the deal. Thanks to BillsCarnage for putting this up in the NBA forum.

[lefty]

Cia Pop

I guess the " Trade Commitee " is shaping up

[ehz33satx]

Stack can sign with any team he wants. period. It his choice. Hey maybe the Spurs would offer him a deal? He's better than Finley!

F*CK Stackhouse.

[Bruno]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3247183

Now ESPN is saying the league has officially told Dallas that Stack isn't going to be part of the deal.

It's quite logical.
Mavs and Nets were obviously in cheating mode.

It's laughable to see all the amateurism around this trade.
Mavs haven't asked George his agreement and they haven't said to Stackhouse to STFU.

BTW, even if Stackhouse hasn't said something, I think that the league wouldn't have allowed him to return to Mavs.

[Solid D]

Prearrangement
For Your Loss

R.I.P Dallas

[T Park]

Hey maybe the Spurs would offer him a deal? He's better than Finley!

pfft
whatever.


@ Dallas

You tried to cheat and got caught.

Pwnt.

[pad300]

Prearrangement
For Your Loss

R.I.P Dallas

I hate to point this out, cause the general laugh at Dallas vibe is pretty funny, but didn't we want this trade to go through... I thought the consensus was that this trade made our match up against Dallas better. Why are we not cursing Stack for an idiot?

[nkdlunch]

I hate to point this out, cause the general laugh at Dallas vibe is pretty funny, but didn't we want this trade to go through... I thought the consensus was that this trade made our match up against Dallas better. Why are we not cursing Stack for an idiot?

yes I wanted this trade to go down. no Diop + Harris is better for Spurs. But oh well, either way Dallas is still ed.

[timmy21_4rings]

NBA should bring the rule (similar to waiving players) that says the players that are traded should not come back to the same team that traded him for that season at least.

Currently, if a player is waived (just like Finley), they can not sign with the team that waived them until their original contract term is complete.

[timmy21_4rings]

I do not see a future for Devean George in Dallas.. I do not know why wants to stick around..Any revenge or under the table deal with Cuban to willingly block this trade. I do not have any idea. In any case it does not show Devean in good lights and he is going to suffer for this when he hit the free agency this summer. Is he looking for any additional (illegal) money from Cuban?

[SenorSpur]

I do not see a future for Devean George in Dallas.. I do not know why wants to stick around..Any revenge or under the table deal with Cuban to willingly block this trade. I do not have any idea. In any case it does not show Devean in good lights and he is going to suffer for this when he hit the free agency this summer. Is he looking for any additional (illegal) money from Cuban?

I can understand him wanted to protect his own interests, but it's not as though he's gonna command big bucks in the summer free agent market. I expect now he's cast himself into great disfavor with Mavs ownership and fans.