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That's some funny . Loose lips sinks ships and in this case the Mavericks. Hahahahaha...
I think it's Bruno who was wondering what NBA would say about that. There you go :
League to look at Stackhouse's comments
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
February 15, 2008
NEW ORLEANS – As the New Jersey Nets and Dallas Mavericks feverishly worked to convince Devean George to join in the trade for Jason Kidd on Thursday, there suddenly loomed another issue that could obliterate the proposed deal: the loose lips of Jerry Stackhouse.
The NBA will investigate the possibility the Mavericks and Stackhouse violated league rules with a prearranged agreement for the forward to return to Dallas after reaching a contract buyout in New Jersey and sitting out the 30-day waiting period, sources said. Several league sources said the NBA will consider forbidding Stackhouse to re-sign with the Mavericks this season as punishment for public comments the forward made on Wednesday that suggested tampering could have occurred.
If it comes to that, the deal is dead. Dallas owner Mark Cuban wouldn't complete the trade for Kidd without a belief that he could bring back Stackhouse this season. Ultimately, sources say, Mavericks management decided that losing Stackhouse would be too hard of a hit to the Mavericks' depth, too steep a price to pay for Kidd.
For the Mavericks, the trouble started when Stackhouse, 33, gave an interview to the Associated Press on Wednesday that suggested there was a plan for how his trade, buyout and eventual re-signing with Dallas would unfold.
Stackhouse said that he was only part of the deal "to make the numbers work."
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What's more, he said, "I feel great. I get 30 days to rest then I'll be right back. I ain't going nowhere."
Even if George changes his mind on Friday about agreeing to waive his "Early Larry Bird Rights" and accept the trade to New Jersey, sources said the league office will not immediately approve the trade. With angry rival executives across the league expressing outrage over Stackhouse's comments, as well as the NBA's own issues and su ions with the comments, senior VP of basketball operations Stu Jackson is obligated to look deeper into the matter.
The NBA doesn't allow such prearranged agreements. The rest of the league is required to have a fair chance to sign Stackhouse in the 30 days before he is eligible to re-sign with the Mavericks. It doesn't help appearances that Stackhouse and Kidd share the same agent, Jeff Schwartz.
When several league executives read Stackhouse's comments on Wednesday, they were irate and privately promised to protest if Stackhouse ends up passing on leaguewide offers and returns to the Mavericks.
"It sounds like a side deal, doesn't it?" one Eastern Conference executive said. "The league will have a lot of explaining to do if Stackhouse goes back to Dallas."
Another general manager said, "I thought it was the most blatant statement someone could make about a trade. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the league disallowed Stackhouse to go back to Dallas. Stackhouse is too impulsive and is prone to say stuff like that which could really end up hurting Dallas."
Finally, a third GM said, "It's caused a lot of people to wonder how they could get away with that, how those kind of pre-existing arrangements can be allowed."
For now, it is clear the trade that would send Kidd and Malik Allen to Dallas for George, Stackhouse, Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop and Maurice Ager, two first-round picks and $3 million is stuck. Before the Mavericks' 109-97 loss to the Suns in Phoenix on Thursday night, agent Mark Bartelstein insisted that his client hadn't changed his mind about vetoing his trade to the Nets.
"There's nothing new," Bartelstein said. "Right now, he's just focusing on playing for the Mavericks."
Between now and next Thursday's trade deadline, the Nets and Mavericks are exploring scenarios that still include George and a sign-and-trade with Keith Van Horn, but the Stackhouse case could make everything else irrelevant. Across the league, there's a belief that Stackhouse revealed too much with his words and the NBA plans to take a hard look and ask the obvious question: Is there strong enough evidence of a pre-existing agreement between the Mavericks and Stackhouse that deserves punishment? If they league decides there is, and refuses to let him re-sign with the Mavericks, the results could be devastating for Dallas.
No trade.
No Kidd.
It would be a steep price to pay for the loose lips of Jerry Stackhouse.
That's some funny . Loose lips sinks ships and in this case the Mavericks. Hahahahaha...
PWNT.
Good Lord.
Looks like Stackhouse missed great opportunity to keep quiet.
Cuban must be on sedatives.
This is bad for us. I wanted the trade to go through. Harris is the one guy who can guard Tony and Diop is a tough defensive center. With those two gone Dallas would've gotten way worse.
Malign move from Stack'.
He knew the trade would hurt Dallas so he started to talk.
CIA Stack !
Last edited by JPB; 02-15-2008 at 06:15 AM.
Dallas is done either way, chemistry is already ed-up, + possible punishment towards Stackhouse...
Don't worry, Dallas may match up well with the Spurs, but will still get pwned in the first round by some scrubby team.
Agreed. However, if the Mavs end up not making a move, I can't imagine the chemistry would be too great on that team.
Not to mention the club's image.
You could se this coming from 100 miles away. Maybe Dallas can lose some picks a la Minnesota.
Kidd might beat Stupidhouse like a rented wife.
Dallas is really becoming a farce.
That lockerroom must be growing more and more dysfunctional every day; such growing pains!
Malign move from Stack'.
He knew the trade would hurt Dallas so he started to talk.
CIA Stack !
I must say those comments to the press, seemed so misplaced... it was like "uh, do you really want to be putting that on the record? Expressing the blatant loophole in the trade for you to remain a Mav?"
I guess that the scenario was Nets buying out Stackhouse for a small amount and Dallas re-signing him for the full MLE.
So :
- Nets would have made the deal because they knew that they get ride of most of Stackhouse's contract with a small buyout.
- Dallas would have made the deal because they knew that Stackhouse would come back latter.
- Stackhouse would have accepted Nets small buyout because he knew that a MLE contract was waiting for him in Dallas.
All the above doesn't respect at all league rules.
It raises two questions :
First, Will Dallas be sanctioned ?
Minnesota lost 3 first round picks for that kind of things. The big difference is that the above scenario hasn't happened. Mavs and to a lesser extent Nets, were ready to break rules but they didn't make it thanks to Devean George. I don't think the league will give a big sanction for something that finally hasn't happened. The league will likely give a warning to Mavs/Nets and maybe a fine and the loss of a second round pick. Ironically, George could end up as the guy who saves Dallas.
Second, Can Kidd to Mavs still happen ?
Stackhouse won't be include in a Kidd deal, it's too big risk.
George still disagree with a trade.
But the basis of the deal still exist : Harris + picks + filler for Kidd.
The problem is to find fillers that makes the deal work under the CBA and doesn't cost too much money to Mavs and Nets.
Mavs could use KVH in a S&T but the bigger is the salary they give to him the most it will cost to Cuban.
Mavs can change Stackhouse + George by Hassel + KVH (S&T at about $5M/year) to make the deal works.
They might get George to move by paying him under the table and avoid the luxury tax dollars. He's apparently not as stupid as Stackhouse.
If the trade still has to happen, it should necesseraly be with a KVH sign & trade now.
Not if George agrees to be traded.
Mavs can even keep Eddie Jones if they want it.
Mavs can trade Harris+Hassel+George+Diop+Ager+Fazekas+Barea+Juwan Howard+picks+cash for Kidd+Armstrong+Wright+Allen
It create some roster number troubles but you can easily solve them by adding teams to this trade. George can also be traded to a third team.
Assuming George changes his mind, which means getting something in return for the lost of his "Bird" rights.
Last edited by JPB; 02-15-2008 at 07:59 AM.
this trade has been a comedy of errors. now, i think that George hung up the trade on purpose because of stackhouse's stupid comments. this trade reeks of all sorts of improprieties. right now, George is just the convenient scape goat.
i hope we don't see Dallas in the playoffs because they are built to beat the spurs...but I don't see the current construct of that team getting by the Suns or the Lakers now.
bye bye kidd. o a retirement -stackhouse
Anyone who thought this wasnt going to happen was kidding themselves.
what a dumbass.
the Dallas Mavericks, what a disfunctional family
where is kidd going now?
What a debacle this has become.
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