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    That was a complete prearranged pick.

    My god how hard is it for him to ing understand that.

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    That was a trade you stubborn fvcks.

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    That was a trade you stubborn fvcks.
    He wasn't even scouted by the Bucks.

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    Who drafted him?

    The fvcking point is that the Mavs make moves to build their team and don't rely on the luck of the draft.

    Read that sixteen times so it sinks in.

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    The fvcking point is that the Mavs make moves to build their team and don't rely on the luck of the draft.
    Except they did. The Mavs wouldn't have been without the Draft.

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    Shut the fvck up already:

    Days prior to the draft, the Washington Wizards and Dallas Mavericks consummated a deal that involved the Wizards' 5th overall pick going to the Mavs along with Jerry Stackhouse and Christian Laettner in exchange for Antawn Jamison. NBA rules prevented teams from trading draft picks for two consecutive years (in addition to trade kicker details in Laettner's contract[3]) so the deal was momentarily delayed until the actual draft in which Washington selected Devin Harris and subsequently traded him to the Mavericks to complete the deal. The Mavs' plan was to bring Harris along slowly under the tutelage of all-star point guard Steve Nash but Nash ended up leaving the team through free agency and signing with the Phoenix Suns.[4]

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    Too late, I already made that addendum.

    We're talking about Dirk. Without Dirk, all of those Mavs moves would have kept them treading water in the 7th or 8th position in the West, at BEST.

    You cannot deny this.

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    So to conclude after wasting our time, the Mavs only contributor that they drafted is Josh Howard.

    Every other fvcking piece came via a trade or free agent signing of some sort.

    The Mavs make moves.

    The Spurs get #1 lottery picks.

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    Too late?

    Dude, you're busted!

    The argument was whether the Mavs build their team via trades and free agency... "make their own luck."

    You're done.

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    Dirk came via a trade you fvcking re .

    Just like your boy Harris.

    Everyone else via trade or free agent signing.




    You have no argument.

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    Too late?

    Dude, you're busted!

    The argument was whether the Mavs build their team via trades and free agency... "make their own luck."

    You're done.



    I already mentioned the Harris trade. You read slow. Scroll back.

    Dirk is the centerpiece. He was a Mavs draft pick. The only reason a trade was even involved is because the Mavs were able to get more by letting the Bucks pick him.

    You know this.

    Anyway... What draft day deal would you like to see the Spurs make before the Feb 21 trade deadline?

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    No.

    Let's recap... Dirk and Harris aren't on the Mavs unless they trade for them.

    I acknowledged Josh Howard.

    Everyone else came from free agency or trades.

    Marquis Daniels?

    Please.

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    Daniels was an undrafted guard who emerged as one of the year's prized steals in the 2003 rookie crop.


    Whoops.


    Wow.

    Josh Howard is the only contributer that the Mavs drafted.

    We could've saved a lot of time here, Spurm.




    Who's got some smelling salts?

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    So is Harris a key contributor or not? Now that you've discovered Harris pick was acquired in a trade he's worth mentioning?

    Dirk would have been a Mav without the trade. Nelson and Rick Pitino both scouted Dirk. Do you really think Tractor Traylor was the Mavs' top choice???

    el.

    oh.

    el.


    You still have a lot of catching up to do from your time off. Looks like you found a reliable source of information in your research on the Harris draft. I suggest you do a search for Nowitzki, Dirk, and read up on him as well.

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    Spurm, not the point.

    Was Dirk drafted by the Mavs.

    Yes or no?

    Who else was drafted by the Mavs that's been a key contributor besides Howard?

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    Didn't dallas draft Kidd?

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    Daniels was an undrafted guard who emerged as one of the year's prized steals in the 2003 rookie crop.


    Whoops.


    Wow.

    Josh Howard is the only contributer that the Mavs drafted.

    We could've saved a lot of time here, Spurm.




    Who's got some smelling salts?

    Meh... semantics.

    Projected as a second-round pick, Daniels waited for his name to be called. The Mavericks' head coach Don Nelson initially planned on using their 2nd rounder to select Daniels (whom they accidentally discovered while watching game tapes of Josh Howard) but his son Donnie Nelson convinced him to trade the pick to Denver instead and assured his father that they would get him one way or the other.

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    Spurm, not the point.

    Was Dirk drafted by the Mavs.

    Yes or no?

    Basically, yes.

    Speaking of point, have you forgotten the point you were trying to make?

    The Spurs would never have been as successful as they are without the Draft.

    The Mavs would not have gotten Dirk Nowitzki without the Draft.

    Both teams could have made all the moves they wanted but neither would have had near the success they've had if they hadn't gotten a top draft pick.

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    People who bash Hollinger are like people who bash Gore or Kerry for being "boring" and went with the more plain-spoken folksy guy. There's like a bias against nerds in this country.
    This article aside, people bash Hollinger because he watches _fanstasy_ basketball and favors stat-padders over proven clutch performers, and random combinations of the former over experienced crews of the latter.

    Yes, he's a tool. And he's not a ing published mathematician or any smarter than any other sportswriter. But then if you consider Al Gore a nerd just because Bush is an ignorant redneck then your standards are already pretty low.

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    Basically, yes.

    Speaking of point, have you forgotten the point you were trying to make?

    The Spurs would never have been as successful as they are without the Draft.

    The Mavs would not have gotten Dirk Nowitzki without the Draft.

    Both teams could have made all the moves they wanted but neither would have had near the success they've had if they hadn't gotten a top draft pick.
    Basically, he was traded on draft day.

    And the Mavs are built almost exclusively on trades like this and free agent signings.

    It's okay to be wrong.

    Not every team depends on ping-pong balls.

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    Not every team depends on ping-pong balls.
    Do the Mavs get Dirk Nowitzki without having a high Draft pick?

    I'll give you some time to go read.

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    While you're researching, you might also find it interesting how the Mavs used that high Lottery pick to get Steve Nash.

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    For a second round pick, we got quite the impact from Najera. He was in our rotation for three years and got valuable minutes even in the playoffs. Not a superstar or anything, but just saying...

    He was drafted by the Rockets!!

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    He was drafted by the Rockets!!

    Oh yeah, that's right. Either way, it's a small distinction, when you're talking about trading for a guy's rights soon after the draft.

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    Dumbass Ghost gets it wrong again.

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